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    My counter to that statement is that [[as I've said before) the one-size-fits all approach of closing down whole states is having a huge impact on the US economy. I would not have chosen that option.

    But there was a reason beyond speculation for some form of response not against an 'IF' but an actual/ active virus: COVID-19, Corornavirus. Too many have died in a compressed span of time for such an abstraction of 'IF'.

    The Either this OR THAT narrative too often negates of the reality of one thing subordinate to the other.

    The BOTH/ AND is were reason [[and a solution) can be found:

    1. Focusing on the United States [[not the global impact of COVID-19) we have experienced a serious pandemic with a high infection and death rate beyond the common flu within the time frame of its arrival to the US.

    AND

    2. We have a one-size-fit all approach [[as per governor options etc) to said pandemic arguably not respective of lower infection rates in some areas which is starting to render a full collapse of the US economy. Especially with regards to small businesses the longer the shut down continues...

    BOTH of these issues are realities.

    NOW we must find a balanced way to re-open segments of our business, schools and commerce etc, in a manner that is both realistic and outcome measurable re. the the virus status, transmission and the US economy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    We shut down the world on an “If” ?

    Its all speculation at this point.
    Last edited by Zacha341; May-11-20 at 09:40 AM.

  2. #4327

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    That's why you do not usually hear that term used by those in the medical field. Especially those who are precise in their language skills.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Wesson View Post
    Interesting using the synonyms for "Go away" in all the 'As in' example tabs there was no mention of "End".

    https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/go%20away
    Last edited by Zacha341; May-11-20 at 10:03 AM.

  3. #4328

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    In a fight or flight dilemma, Trump chooses flight. Run away! Run away!



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    ^^^ He had so many options on handling those questions, thoroughly without ever referencing China in a way that could be determined as racist. Instead out came the shovel -- then a hasty retreat! The attempted 'dig out' [[damage control) will be interesting. NOT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    ^^^ He had so many options on handling those questions, thoroughly without ever referencing China in a way that could be determined as racist. Instead out came the shovel -- then a hasty retreat! The attempted 'dig out' [[damage control) will be interesting. NOT.
    Every legitimate question he is asked from most journalists is a "nasty" question because he either doesn't know the answer or they are not from a newspaper/network to his liking. Here's another example after a twitter propaganda rage the day before......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNlSRd2w5IA

    The guy likes to make crap up for deflection purposes. Why he continues to bring up Obama, I'll never know.
    Last edited by Maof; May-12-20 at 07:15 PM.

  6. #4331

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimaz View Post
    In a fight or flight dilemma, Trump chooses flight. Run away! Run away!


    I prefer this version.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNk3LwaVkbQ

  7. #4332

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    And the damndest thing is that his supporters will agree with what he did because the reporters were "mean" to him and why shouldn't he be mean back? They seemingly don't understand what being a real President should act like.

  8. #4333

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcole View Post
    And the damndest thing is that his supporters will agree with what he did because the reporters were "mean" to him and why shouldn't he be mean back? They seemingly don't understand what being a real President should act like.
    Which makes this accurate....https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/...p-Blimp-UK.jpg

  9. #4334

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    ^^^ He had so many options on handling those questions, thoroughly without ever referencing China in a way that could be determined as racist. Instead out came the shovel -- then a hasty retreat! The attempted 'dig out' [[damage control) will be interesting. NOT.
    Ever watch Cuomo's daily updates?

    He is also getting aggravated with the press asking the same question 17 times in the same time frame.His words.

    I am Not Chinese or Asian,neither are you.

    If I ask you to go ask China does that make me racist?

    I guess it only makes me a racist if I say it to an Asian.

    We talk about racism but yet we are supposed to separate everybody into their own little category and treat them different.

    Even though she is CNN he still called on her and gave her a chance to ask a question that was not already asked by the 5 reporters before her.

    But that is typical,call everybody a racist that you do not agree with,any surprise that CNN posts a snippet of an hour long session with zero context of a CNN reporter that used the moment to push an agenda.

    Nobody has to be a Trump supporter to defend logic,who is really creating division in this country when everybody is classified as a separate citizen according to race,color or creed.

    She has never ever really asked a question in the daily briefings,every time it is a demand or form of attack.

    She has a history of trying to create the news verses reporting it.

    Trump is a better person then me,at this point I would be all about simply ignoring any questions by CNN and never call on them at any time.

    They spend 24/7 attacking him in a biased way,if the press wants to act like they are a political opponent running for office then they should be treated as such.

    But clearly they feel that they are exempt while hiding behind the freedom of the press.

    Once again I use the word “you” but do not mean “you” personally.

    Now that the truth is out,I am still waiting for the media’s public apology for dragging General Flynn’s name through the mud of public opinion,with zero facts.

    Freedom of the press comes with responsibility,it is a two way street.
    Last edited by Richard; May-12-20 at 10:27 AM.

  10. #4335

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    Isn't it a Democratic party narrative to respond to Trump putting tariffs on Chinese goods as 'racist', restricting passenger travel from China as 'racist', de Blasio promoting going to Chinatown as an antidote to Trump's racism, and perhaps promoting incidents of someone glaring at Asian Americans as proof that Trump is promoting racism for identity politics election purposes?

    The correspondent was argumentative and rude. "So why are you saying that specifically to me"? It was all about herself. I think that the CBS journalist was insinuating that if Trump asked a Chinese born journalist about China, he was being racist. It came out a possible accusation. A CNN talking head said as much in another video. Lesson learned.

    "Gloria's" CNN opinionated analysis went right to that point. She said at 1'50", "What you are saying is "are you being racist for asking that question"". I don't know, maybe Trump didn't like being called a racist and decided to leave before being goaded into saying something regrettable. This is CNN where its all about promoting the narrative. Maybe its time to move on from Russiagate since its promoters are being exposed.
    Last edited by oladub; May-12-20 at 11:23 AM.

  11. #4336

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    Not a Cuomo fan and did not say there was NOT a set-up here re. Trump.

    I work in technical education [[K12 and College) where I've engaged teens [[a most challenging audience) and walking off was not an option.

    I learned to effectively not show if a verbal argument or punch 'landed'. And first and foremost remain blameless! Otherwise, YOUR response is the only thing remembered [[and quoted), not even the original question or topic.

    I am just glad he did not really go into super-defense mode to really hole dig -- saying something he'd regret... [[his opponents so really want that to happen!). Anything that resembles a racial component is good hunting!

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Ever watch Cuomo's daily updates?

    He is also getting aggravated with the press asking the same question 17 times in the same time frame. His words.

    I am Not Chinese or Asian, neither are you.

    If I ask you to go ask China does that make me racist?

    I guess it only makes me a racist if I say it to an Asian....
    Last edited by Zacha341; May-14-20 at 05:25 AM.

  12. #4337

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    Yea that is why he choose to just walk away,some may refer to it as abruptly ending it in a negative away,it was the end anyways,so at that point it was clear it was all going downhill from there,it’s not like he gives everybody a kiss goodbye anyways.

    Exit stage right.

    People seem to have a habit of looking for fights and then get upset when they do not like the response.

    That is the problem with cost cutting measures by the media,they got rid of the experienced reporters and replaced them with cheap reporters.

    I heard the murder hornets are attracted to the smell of hand sanitizer.







    That was a joke.
    Last edited by Richard; May-12-20 at 01:35 PM.

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    Trump declares Mission Accomplished, we beat Coronavirus!

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...r-masks-249204

    "In every generation, through every challenge and hardship and danger, America has risen to the task," the President declared. "We have met the moment and we have prevailed."
    Just so we can re-evaluate the accuracy of this statement months from now, Trump said this yesterday [[5/11/2020) and the case count and death count as of yesterday was 1,385,824, and 81,795, respectively. So I guess we'll see what happens to those numbers over the next six month "post-victory."

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    Anyone notice his set-up yesterday at another disaster of a briefing? Reminded me of the wine and steaks he tried hawing a few years ago ....

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset..._720_noupscale

    https://static.politico.com/dims4/de...2-gty-1160.jpg
    Last edited by Maof; May-12-20 at 07:31 PM.

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    ^ if you are so triggered by the briefings,why suffer the pain of watching them?

    Reminds me of when Pelosi ripped up the Wal-Mart job application that the president handed her during the SOTU speech.

    Waaa

  16. #4341

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    Biden Ad Says Trump's Failure To Lead 'Destroyed' The Economy
    Morning Joe | MSNBC

  17. #4342

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    ^ so do you think it is a presidents job to instill fear or push for calm when you know something is coming that you will have little control over?

    Hospitals in some states were already preparing in January,the markets were looking worldwide they did not need the president in order to see where it was all going.

    Besides,by the time that airs,Biden will have forgotten all about it.

    He forgot to add the part where he was calling the president racist for shutting down travel from China in January.

    But when you are targeting the weak minded that choose not to think for themselves,the bar is set low and it really does not take much.

  18. #4343

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    ^^^Biden's a weak candidate, but that campaign is well put together relative to those time-lines selected and the graphics used.

    Fear mongering is one thing, but tamping down emerging facts... well....

    Even say, the less-weak minded are questioning how all of this was eh' handled.
    Last edited by Zacha341; May-13-20 at 07:23 AM.

  19. #4344

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    ^ yes but it is the internet so it is well documented on both sides.

    Sense it is new it is up to anybody’s interpretation as to how and if it was handled correctly or not,what is it based on?

    Opposition based on hind-site is not exactly a winning combination,and nobody can say how they would have handled it differently,because they were not there in the seat at the time.

    It is easy now,a cave man can figure out how to handle the next one.

    There is not a world leader that is not being questioned as to if they handled it correctly or not.

    He did keep his head while others were clearly loosing theirs.

    Could have,would have,should have,is meaningless now and just people chest pumping from the cheap seats.

    You have not noticed a tamping down of emerging facts for the past 3.5 years lol Trump does not hold a speciality on that one,and it has been going on for 200 years before him.

    In the political spectrum,what is the difference with the virus and everything else that has been going on in the last 3.5 years.

    Trump could pull a worldwide cure for the virus out of his ass tomorrow and while the rest of the world is being saved 1/2 of America would rather die then accept anything from Trump or Trump connected,outside of a cash stimulus,that is.
    Last edited by Richard; May-12-20 at 11:29 PM.

  20. #4345

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    Yeah I did and I DO.

    Remember, I'm not of the crowd that particularly finds Trump the specialist of all things 'e-V-e-ill' or all bad policy and news sculpting.

    As I'm not very partisan, I call 'em as I see 'em:

    As they do, say and behave [[politicians and reporters - repubs, indies, crypto-fascists, dems, etc).

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    You have not noticed a tamping down of emerging facts for the past 3.5 years lol Trump does not hold a speciality on that one, and it has been going on for 200 years before him.
    Last edited by Zacha341; May-13-20 at 08:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    ^ if you are so triggered by the briefings,why suffer the pain of watching them?

    Reminds me of when Pelosi ripped up the Wal-Mart job application that the president handed her during the SOTU speech.

    Waaa
    Unfortunately, my husband turns it on just to see him stumble when asked questions and throw out falsehoods. Kinda like a a comedy show. Me? I just walk out of the room after a few minutes. Have you noticed he's only done two briefings since he suggested injecting someone with disinfectant? And the briefing two days ago was just a salesman pitch with banners....AMERCIA LEADS THE WORLD IN TESTING.... tables set up on either side of the podium with swabs and testing machines...https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/...complished.jpg
    Last edited by Maof; May-13-20 at 07:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    Have you noticed he's only done two briefings since he suggested injecting someone with disinfectant?
    What were Trump's exact words you quoted suggesting 'injecting someone with disinfectant"?
    Last edited by oladub; May-13-20 at 08:07 AM.

  23. #4348

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    Unfortunately, my husband turns it on just to see him stumble when asked questions and throw out falsehoods. Kinda like a a comedy show. Me? I just walk out of the room after a few minutes. Have you noticed he's only done two briefings since he suggested injecting someone with disinfectant? And the briefing two days ago was just a salesman pitch with banners....AMERCIA LEADS THE WORLD IN TESTING.... tables set up on either side of the podium with swabs and testing machines...https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/...complished.jpg

    It is part of his job to not create fear and panic,if he was acting like a majority of the media pushing the message of,stick your head out of the window and you will die,where would we be at?

    People should be happy some diverted thier energy buying toilet paper,faced with daily pounding of its the end of the world pandemic,the other option would have been rape and pillage,because it was the end of the world anyways.

    There will always be the glass half empty crowd.

    I agree with the comedy aspect,simply pondering something and even adults that should know better take things literally.

    He should be more like cuomo and explain everything to everybody as if they are 6 years old.

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    As with things like this which can impact broad populations a measure of balance and appropriate response should be be happening!

    No, we don't/ did not need condescending fear-mongering [[Cuomo) and the like.

    NOR, the minimizing of the emergence of a health related incident [[Trump).

    Fear-Mongering vs. Minimizing and Negating.

    Neither PLEASE - Going forth!

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    It is part of his job to not create fear and panic, if he was acting like a majority of the media pushing the message of, stick your head out of the window and you will die, where would we be at?.
    Last edited by Zacha341; May-13-20 at 10:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    What were Trump's exact words you quoted suggesting 'injecting someone with disinfectant"?
    You mean to tell you you missed it?...LOL Here ya go and don't bother trying to manipulate his words. It is what he said.......https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes...124512820.html

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