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    Further, election officials in Antrim County, Michigan, blamed Dominion Voting Systems software on a glitch that falsely determined that former Vice President Joe Biden had defeated President Donald Trump in the county by more than 3,000 votes.
    After the error was discovered, the updated numbers showed that Trump won by nearly 2,500 votes.
    Meanwhile, Republican Oakland County Commissioner Adam Kochenderfer learned he had won, not lost, his re-election bid after a counting error was discovered.
    Top election cyber experts told The Western Journal in April that voting software systems can be hacked and reprogrammed to skew vote tallies.
    https://conservativefighters.org/new...om-dem-to-gop/



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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Further, election officials in Antrim County, Michigan, blamed Dominion Voting Systems software on a glitch that falsely determined that former Vice President Joe Biden had defeated President Donald Trump in the county by more than 3,000 votes.
    After the error was discovered, the updated numbers showed that Trump won by nearly 2,500 votes.
    Meanwhile, Republican Oakland County Commissioner Adam Kochenderfer learned he had won, not lost, his re-election bid after a counting error was discovered.
    Top election cyber experts told The Western Journal in April that voting software systems can be hacked and reprogrammed to skew vote tallies.
    https://conservativefighters.org/new...om-dem-to-gop/



    Of course there was an error because a county clerk forget to push the voting computer machine button. But the error was corrected. Trump won that county big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Of course there was an error because a county clerk forget to push the voting computer machine button. But the error was corrected. Trump won that county big deal.
    That’s not the point,flip the coin,what if the votes were incorrectly tallied and Biden should have won?

    Some keep playing the partisan role,when it should be above the accuracy of the count.

    Somebody forgetting to input votes is pretty serious stuff and sorry I forgot to input 5000 votes is no excuse,what if it was done on purpose then when discovered it becomes.

    Sorry I forgot.

    We talk about votes but they represent a person that took the time to make their voices heard at the polls,they have the right to have the basic understanding that it will be counted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    That’s not the point,flip the coin,what if the votes were incorrectly tallied and Biden should have won?

    Some keep playing the partisan role,when it should be above the accuracy of the count.

    Somebody forgetting to input votes is pretty serious stuff and sorry I forgot to input 5000 votes is no excuse,what if it was done on purpose then when discovered it becomes.

    Sorry I forgot.

    We talk about votes but they represent a person that took the time to make their voices heard at the polls,they have the right to have the basic understanding that it will be counted.
    Everyone agrees it should be about accuracy, but until this year, we've accepted the count for what it is, a very accurate, not 100% perfect, representation of the vote. And if there's a race that's down to a few hundred votes, everyone supports a full recount.

    But now we have claims that are attempting to overturn results that were separated by tens of thousands of votes, which is essentially unprecedented. Plus now all of a sudden every clerk and election worker is a crook, which hasn't been the case in the past.

    So yeah it sucks that someone forgot to push a button or check a box, but until this year, we haven't attacked the entire voting system over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonWylie View Post
    Everyone agrees it should be about accuracy, but until this year, we've accepted the count for what it is, a very accurate, not 100% perfect, representation of the vote. And if there's a race that's down to a few hundred votes, everyone supports a full recount.

    But now we have claims that are attempting to overturn results that were separated by tens of thousands of votes, which is essentially unprecedented. Plus now all of a sudden every clerk and election worker is a crook, which hasn't been the case in the past.

    So yeah it sucks that someone forgot to push a button or check a box, but until this year, we haven't attacked the entire voting system over it.

    I like the history channel,how about you ?

    Here they are listing the history of disputed elections,nothing new.

    https://www.history.com/news/most-contentious-u-s-presidential-elections


    Are we forgetting about 2016 where the entire voting system may not have been attacked but there was 4 years and millions of dollars trying to overturn it,not much difference there.

    One could argue the voting system at that time was in question,maybe HC conceded so quick because she was afraid that the system was rigged and people would have found out.

    Just like with the current one,they did not figure the wildcard would be there in Trump.

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    No doubt something very bad happened in Mi.
    https://youtu.be/Ztu5Y5obWPk

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    His own DHS.......https://www.businessinsider.com/dhs-...istory-2020-11

    He needs to go away. He's being coddle like a toddler by his enablers, McConnell, Pompeo, Barr and the rest of his circus. Disgusting.
    Last edited by Maof; November-13-20 at 08:15 PM.

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    Two Michigan GOP senators will meet with President Trump to talk about Michigan's election progress. They can not do that because is illegal and treasonous. They must be arrested when they return to our state.

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    "political prosecution is illegal in this country."

    Yes it can. If it involves sneaky influences and schemes of the courts or excites violence.

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    Six Michigan Republican Legislatures, Black Lives for President Trump a Woman's Organization and Trump Supporters are issuing a lawsuit to sue Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Sec. of State Jocelyn Benson for a demand an audit of people's votes. They also want a Trump Loyalist to be the elector when the Board of Electors meet in D.C. on December 14 2020. That is very dangerous and an act of political treason just to get outgoing President Trump to stay in office. Due to lack of solid evidence or a whistleblower signing an affidavit, the lawsuit will be put into a circular file.

    It's already dead. Let's move on.
    Last edited by Danny; November-28-20 at 06:37 PM.

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    Why is Guliani coming to Michigan in a hearing testifying that Leprechauns and Trolls from liberal people have cause the election fraud? That hearing is a waste of time and a waste of taxpayers. That is already over and Trump's robot will not get an approval from Michigan Legislature to overturn the election results.

    If I was a member of that hearing I will tell Guliani to run back to your outgoing president Trump that his time is almost up. And get ready to set your next lawsuit because The U.S. Justice Dept, and the FBI will be arresting Trump next year for conspiracy to commit political collusion, causing a civil purge of the American People and political treason. Which it's a class one federal felony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Why is Guliani coming to Michigan in a hearing testifying that Leprechauns and Trolls from liberal people have cause the election fraud? That hearing is a waste of time and a waste of taxpayers. That is already over and Trump's robot will not get an approval from Michigan Legislature to overturn the election results.

    If I was a member of that hearing I will tell Guliani to run back to your outgoing president Trump that his time is almost up. And get ready to set your next lawsuit because The U.S. Justice Dept, and the FBI will be arresting Trump next year for conspiracy to commit political collusion, causing a civil purge of the American People and political treason. Which it's a class one federal felony.
    Chairman: "Do you have a point of order? You're out of order. [gavel] Point of order? You're out of order. [gavel] Point of order? You're out of order. [gavel] Point of order? You're out of order. [gavel] Point of order? You're out of order.[gavel] [gavel][gavel][gavel][gavel]"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLRTeR__v60

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    Those MAGA supporters needs to stop being cry babies and get use to your new president Biden. Trump had his shot and his nastiness and evil schemes cause his election. And soon he will be in Club Fed.

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    Trump folks are still at political war against the electoral college trying to overturn the election results without any evidence! Trump folks claimed that Leprechauns, Aliens and sex demon worshippers who sided with the Democratic Party claimed by QAnon has tampered with the election Trump, do not mess with my ballot. I made my decision and the rest of American People, too. The election is fair checked and double checked. S.C.O.T.U.S. will throw your cases in the circular file. It's already dead. Case dismissed.

    By the way The Detroit Mayoral Election is coming next year. Yay Duggan 4 more years.

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    I can't wait for a Trump movie comes out in 2025. It's going to be more satirical then the film W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    I can't wait for a Trump movie comes out in 2025. It's going to be more satirical then the film W.
    I hope it's finished by 2023 Danny...

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    Yesterday was despicable, however I had no doubt that those activities would not go on into the late evening hours. When you're an over 50 protester, it's not easy to stay out in the cold for hours on end, walking several miles while carrying signs, shouting as you go. Eventually food, medication, and naps are required. A 2nd day of protesting is not physically on their agenda, simply because it's not physically possible.

    I have to give Fox News some credit. They actually waited a whole 4 hours before they began their conspiracies about the insurrection being started by Antifa dressed in MAGA outfits.....Laura Ingraham of course !

    I'd like to thank President Trump for his assistance in turning Georgia Blue. We couldn't have done it without you. Ask Kelly Loeffler.

    According to his own White House Staff, President Trump refused to take action, and also refused to release any kind of statement to quell the violence. After his son, Rudy, and he incited his loyal followers, he refused to join them on their march as promised. His own loyal followers in Congress were aghast when they finally experienced some direct fallout from the nonsense they've aided & abetted for so long, as Trump hid safely in the White House with his arms folded with an, 'I told you so look.' They own this as much as he does.

    Seriously, I was quite worried, and still am, that Trump abandoning his New Year party @ Maralago, returning to Washington, having an aircraft carrier return to the Middle East, that he was going to perform some type of military strike in his final days in office. Instead, he probably came back to D.C. to orchestrate this garbage....an insurrection and attack on his own country.
    Last edited by Bong-Man; January-07-21 at 09:59 AM.

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    He still has 2 weeks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bong-Man View Post
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    Seriously, I was quite worried, and still am, that Trump abandoning his New Year party @ Maralago, returning to Washington, having an aircraft carrier return to the Middle East, that he was going to perform some type of military strike in his final days in office. Instead, he probably came back to D.C. to orchestrate this garbage....an insurrection and attack on his own country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bong-Man View Post
    ... that he was going to perform some type of military strike in his final days in office. Instead, he probably came back to D.C. to orchestrate this garbage....an insurrection and attack on his own country.
    It's not over until it's over. He's a cornered animal. I just hope we won't look back on this as a minor precursor to some nihilistic escalation that could have been preempted.

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    Thank you Admin. for opening this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Thank you Admin. for opening this board.
    Agreed. Corporations, e.g. Facebook, Twitter, and Yahoo, have been shutting down their comment sections and freedom of speech. DetroitYes went against the tide. [[Hurray!) I wonder though if Richard was wished into the cornfield.

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    Freedom of speech only applies to the government; Twitter, FB, Insta, and even DetroitYes do not have to abide by it. When you sign up with ANY corporate or private chat type board, you first have to agree with their rules of behaviour. Only then do they allow you to put your handle on their board and let you post. If you break the rules, you usually get suspended, which I know Lowell has been known to do, just like Twitter is doing now. You get warned, suspended and then banned. That is what happened to Trump. Has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Also can't yell fire in a crowded theater
    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    Agreed. Corporations, e.g. Facebook, Twitter, and Yahoo, have been shutting down their comment sections and freedom of speech. DetroitYes went against the tide. [[Hurray!) I wonder though if Richard was wished into the cornfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    Agreed. Corporations, e.g. Facebook, Twitter, and Yahoo, have been shutting down their comment sections and freedom of speech. DetroitYes went against the tide. [[Hurray!) I wonder though if Richard was wished into the cornfield.
    Not yet lol as much as many wish.

    I like opposition with the theory behind it being an attempt to understand how and why others think and form opinions as they do.

    When one forms their counter opinion based on a personal attack,spelling or attacking links verses what they contain it shows they are trying to regulate others thoughts.

    That is why this country works,is because we are all able to think for ourselves and form our own opinions without being forced to think a certain way.

    If one cannot have a heated discussion with somebody or not agree with everything they say or do,then turn around and sit down and have a beer with them we become a singular mindset.

    Outside of the socialist commies I would like to believe the majority of us are like that,life is to short.

    Look at it this way,if we want to spice it up a bit outside of the realm of politics,we can always open a thread about religion.

    Nothing that is going on today is unprecedented in the history of the country.

    Well,outside of the massive voter fraud,but then again it may have always been there and we just did not know about it.

    People are forgetting that the mantra in the 1970s was actually literally blowing up federal buildings verse occupying them or even burning them like now.

    There was also sit ins where people would occupy a building for weeks on end in order to get their point across,so this whole drama going on is not like it has never happened before.

    It does not matter what it applies to or who it applies to,there are bad elements in every aspect of life just as there are bad elements in politics on all sides,if we are going to group everybody into an inclusive category then we accomplish nothing and set the trend of applying that across the board in all aspects.

    I think this time I will try and be the better person and just ignore the personal attacks and just view them as that is all they have to offer.

    Until this whole internet liability thing gets resolved,we as posters have somewhat of a responsibility to choose our words carefully and how we act accordingly,I have always viewed it as a tremendous service to the community and can only imagine the amount of work and headache that goes behind it to make it happen.

    So if some want to take their frustrations out on me,no problem,tomorrow is another day,new drama will arise and this country is now controlled by a foreign entity anyways,who sits in the whitehouse is kinda irrelevant at this point,what they decide to do about it will be the defining moment.
    Last edited by Richard; January-09-21 at 02:59 PM.

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    The best campaign slogan I saw this season said:

    "Trump 2020. Fuck your feelings."

    And that about sums it up.

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    Pushing disinformation?

    So in 2005 the state of Michigan had over 385,000 dead voters in the roll.

    Claiming disinformation is par to the course that has happened in the last 4 years claiming Russian intervention when the party that was claiming it were the ones actually involved.

    If one claims another is pushing disinformation,they really need to post the facts in order to dispel it.

    The city council awarded the 1 million dollar contract to provide poll workers to the lawyer that set up the company’s for Kilpatrick so he could funnel off city funds for personal use.

    There are sworn affidavits from poll workers that witnessed irregularities,a sworn affidavit that is a crime if incorrect information is provided.

    The evidence is out there but the media has told you it is not,so you guys believe it because you really do not care about democracy or the process,it would not matter if the Chinese carried in boxes of ballots printed in Korean as long as their personal little feelings are taken care of the country could burn to the ground and it would not matter.

    Never in the history of the country has the media ever had the power to declare an election,that pesky little constitution that you guys wish to dissolve says that until the results are certified nobody is declared president.

    People need to be careful with all of this footloose and free with the constitution it’s the only thing that you have that protects your little freedoms.

    Interesting how some who opposed lockdowns are now towing the line as the media directs you to,that must be a tough way to live life.

    Anybody here actually have any evidence that polling illegalities did not occur,like as in you were actually there and can verify?

    My guess is no,but because you believe what you are told like good little plebs and you would be wrong to question anything that does not benefit you.

    People need to stop acting like politics gives a crap about their little feelings,we are all pawns in the game of power and money,people have been burning cities for over 100 years and little has changed.

    But hey keep thinking it is everybody else that is screwed up it seems to be working so well.

    People think they got salvation,watch what happens when the tariffs get rolled back and businesses start moving production or purchasing overseas again.

    What do you think happens to Detroit ? Of course those highly prized $15 per hour jobs are not all that bad.

    How can people say without be told that voter fraud did not happen? Because you were told with exactly zero investigation before being told?

    Some are perfect dictatorship material,you fall right in line when you are told to.
    Last edited by Richard; November-14-20 at 12:17 AM.

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