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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartthed View Post
    Well, besides the weather, I can't think of anything that Miami, New Orleans or San Diego have that Detroit doesn't. They are all sprawled. All lack a train system. Miami and New Orleans clearly have crime issues like Detroit. The only reason they continue to get the SB is because of their climates.
    I gotta disagree. I love Detroit as much as anyone, but really? New Orleans has the French Quarter and Bourbon Street, which Detroit has no match for. New Olreans has like 100 hotels, Detroit has like 5. New Orleans has world famous cuisine, and they have casino's like us. When you think of New Orleans you think of a good time and a party... which is what the NFL wants in a SB host city. Miami is the same way, tons of nightlife, a great beach, a lot of cabs, unlimited things to do, tons of hotels. San Diego has the best weather in the country, has the Gaslamp Quarter, and can handle the increase in visitors way better than Detroit.

    I know we all love Detroit, but we aren't a MAJOR city anymore. I see about 3 cabs a day. Where do people stay for the Super Bowl? Windsor? Southfield? How do they get into downtown? A cab that doesn't exist? And what do they do at night? MGM and Motor City have to get old after two nights....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREENTROIT View Post
    I gotta disagree. I love Detroit as much as anyone, but really? New Orleans has the French Quarter and Bourbon Street, which Detroit has no match for. New Olreans has like 100 hotels, Detroit has like 5. New Orleans has world famous cuisine, and they have casino's like us. When you think of New Orleans you think of a good time and a party... which is what the NFL wants in a SB host city. Miami is the same way, tons of nightlife, a great beach, a lot of cabs, unlimited things to do, tons of hotels. San Diego has the best weather in the country, has the Gaslamp Quarter, and can handle the increase in visitors way better than Detroit.

    I know we all love Detroit, but we aren't a MAJOR city anymore. I see about 3 cabs a day. Where do people stay for the Super Bowl? Windsor? Southfield? How do they get into downtown? A cab that doesn't exist? And what do they do at night? MGM and Motor City have to get old after two nights....
    Whoa.... talk about an inferiority complex!!

    You are comparing Detroit to probably the best of the superbowl contenders... what about Jacksonville and Tampa? The people who went to the Superbowl the year before Detroit hated Jacksonville because there was literally nothing to do there.

    As for hotel space... 5 hotels is just the number that came online since the Superbowl.... we seem to have done alright for the Superbowl before these additional 5 swanky hotels came online.

    So you don't think there's anything to do in metro Detroit? Do you even get out much?

    1. Henry Ford Museum
    2. Greenfield Village
    3. Greektown [[it may not be Bourbon St., but you can only eat and drink so much...)
    4. DIA
    5. Science Center
    6. Charles M. Wright Museum
    7. Detoit Historical Museum
    8. Hitsville USA
    9. Detroit's Casinos
    10. Trip to Windsor Ballet
    11. Auto Heritage Tours
    etc...

    All the downtown historic movie palaces had shows for the Superbowl visitors. The visiting journalists were blown away by the extra spectacular show that was put on for them at the Fox Theatre... they raved about it [[and the theatre itself)...

    Other cities set up tents for the Superbowl visitors... but we use glorious historic interiors... such as the Guardian and Whitney Building towering opulent lobbies, and the Fox State/Filmore, Opera House, Music Hall ornate interiors.

    Sounds like some folks on this thread weren't paying attention as to the comments from the Superbowl visitors.

    Granted we don't have a lot of sunshine or sunny beaches in January... but that's not to say that we couldn't put up a grand party.

    I swear, sometimes the biggest detractors of Detroit are many of those who actually live [[or have lived) here... while the biggest fans are those who [[expecting a dangerous hell hole) are pleasantly surprised at all the nice stuff that Detroit has to offer out of town visitors.

    Oh... and just because we're undergoing a tough time in the economy... we're still a MAJOR city... remember nearly 5 million people STILL LIVE IN METRO DETROIT.... compare that to metro San Diego, New Orleans, Tampa or Jacksonville...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    So much to do, you're right.

    You should move to the city and help be part of the solution.
    What makes you think you can't do it from where I live? I belong to Preservation Wayne, give city tours to tour buses full of Europeans and USA out-of-towners, do movie palace tours, help with cleanups of some downtown buildings, and constantly bring friends and relatives [[in and out of state) into the city as a Detroit Ambassador of Goodwill.

    I even got mentioned in one of the Detroit Convention & Visitors Guide a few years back.

    You see that is a common misconception among many forumers... they think it is necessary to actually live in Detroit in order to contribute to the well being of Detroit. Neither Lowell, Kathleen, nor myself actually live within the city limits... and yet we contribute more to promoting Detroit than the majority of Detroiters...

    It's not where you live... it's how you spend your time living...
    Last edited by Gistok; May-21-09 at 11:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    That's quite a statement. Thanks for donating your time to help this charity case of a city even though you'd never live here. I'm sure you sleep well at night, content and proud of your contributions.
    Those are some mighty presumptuous words for someone who doesn't know me or has ever met me...

    I've lived in Detroit for 30 years before I moved... and no, I don't view Detroit as a charity case... but your mind is already made up about me, so I won't bother confusing you with the facts... and yes... I do sleep well at night... and not for charitable reasons...

    And what have you done... besides trolling?
    Last edited by Gistok; May-21-09 at 02:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREENTROIT View Post
    I gotta disagree. I love Detroit as much as anyone, but really? New Orleans has the French Quarter and Bourbon Street, which Detroit has no match for. New Olreans has like 100 hotels, Detroit has like 5. New Orleans has world famous cuisine, and they have casino's like us. When you think of New Orleans you think of a good time and a party... which is what the NFL wants in a SB host city. Miami is the same way, tons of nightlife, a great beach, a lot of cabs, unlimited things to do, tons of hotels. San Diego has the best weather in the country, has the Gaslamp Quarter, and can handle the increase in visitors way better than Detroit.

    I know we all love Detroit, but we aren't a MAJOR city anymore. I see about 3 cabs a day. Where do people stay for the Super Bowl? Windsor? Southfield? How do they get into downtown? A cab that doesn't exist? And what do they do at night? MGM and Motor City have to get old after two nights....
    You're saying this as if Detroit hasn't hosted a Super Bowl before. Cabs? That is a non-issue that can be easily fixed. Detroit has plenty of hotel space between itself, inner-ring suburbs and Windsor. The Detroit Metro area is roughly the same size as the Miami area, about 1.5 times the size of the San Diego area, and four times the size of the New Orleans area. Stop confusing being a tourist destination with being a major metropolis.

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    @ Gistok... OK, the Super Bowl crowd is not interested in the DIA, or the Science Museum. They want bars open till 4 AM, parties, adult clubs, all within a close distance to one another. Detroit doesn't have this. Visitors don't want to wake up in Southfield, have to find a way to get into Downtown Detroit, go from location to location in 10 inches of snow, then have nothing to do at night unless they go through the hassle of crossing the border. And I'm comparing Detroit to these cities because it was said earlier that Detroit has everything that these cities offer. I was disputing that. And the reasons you stated are the reasons the NFL will never allow Jacksonville to host another SB... or Houston for that matter.

    @iheartthed... Yes, Detroit metro is huge, but that doesn't make the city capable of handling an event like this. The city needs to have many attractions centrally located and all within very close distance of hotels. Detroit doesn't offer this. It's not walkable especially in early February. The reasons Detroit isn't a tourist destination are the same reason's its not a good Super Bowl host.


    -- I love Detroit and love living here. I just don't think we're a good Super Bowl host and don't think we will ever get another one in Ford Field. There are too many better options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREENTROIT View Post
    @iheartthed... Yes, Detroit metro is huge, but that doesn't make the city capable of handling an event like this. The city needs to have many attractions centrally located and all within very close distance of hotels. Detroit doesn't offer this. It's not walkable especially in early February. The reasons Detroit isn't a tourist destination are the same reason's its not a good Super Bowl host.


    -- I love Detroit and love living here. I just don't think we're a good Super Bowl host and don't think we will ever get another one in Ford Field. There are too many better options.
    I don't get what point you are trying to make. The city just hosted this event three years ago.

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    My point is that the NFL will never give us the event again. We hosted it in 2006 as a 'thank you' from the NFL to William Clay Ford for building a new stadium, and to the Big Three for years and years of sponsoring the league.

    And by most accounts, Detroit was a terrible Super Bowl host. There was nothing we as a city could have done differently, it's just that we come up short on the things they look for in a host city: Weather, nightlife, centrally located activities. This conversation was whether Detroit could get another Super Bowl, not whether we can host one [[although an unattractive host, we can handle it), I shouldn't have said we can't handle it. It's more like we can't make the visitors happy with what we have to offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREENTROIT View Post
    My point is that the NFL will never give us the event again. We hosted it in 2006 as a 'thank you' from the NFL to William Clay Ford for building a new stadium, and to the Big Three for years and years of sponsoring the league.
    That's it.

    Detroit will get another SB when they replace Ford Field.

    The NFL said thank you to the tax payers and the Ford family once, they're not going to do it again unless they make the decision to move the SB to the spring time when the weather is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREENTROIT View Post
    And by most accounts, Detroit was a terrible Super Bowl host.
    Strange, I seem to remember almost everything in the press being good. Most came expecting it to be terrible and were very pleasantly surprised to find that they enjoyed themselves and the city quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gencinjay View Post
    Strange, I seem to remember almost everything in the press being good. Most came expecting it to be terrible and were very pleasantly surprised to find that they enjoyed themselves and the city quite a bit.
    I have to agree gecinjay...

    Greendetroit... where are you getting your information from? Everything that was reported in the dailies, on TV, out of town journalists/news media and the NFL itself, all painted the Detroit's Superbowl a success.... are you basing your info on personal experiences, or what??

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