More federal charges against Kwame

[kenp]

Karmanos giving him the job is what bugs me. He's one guy at the top that should be a little bit concerned. Though the reality is nothing will come of it.
Gotta admit though in 2008 when this all came down I never would have thought that so many would have been exposed. And its going to even get better in a few minutes.

[dtrrman]

Karmanos giving him the job is what bugs me. He's one guy at the top that should be a little bit concerned. Though the reality is nothing will come of it.
Gotta admit though in 2008 when this all came down I never would have thought that so many would have been exposed. And its going to even get better in a few minutes.

Anybody who was in any kind of $$$ contact with this corrupt thug has dirty hands to some level.

[Wingnatic]

Looks like this will go back to when KK was in State Government , its been hinted the Government will do this under the RICO act
http://www.ricoact.com/

[daddeeo]

The hard rain is starting to fall on Kwame and his buddies

[rjlj]

Now you know why very few projects were ever completed and no one wanted to do projects in the city during those 7 years. A total waste.

[English]

Now you know why very few projects were ever completed and no one wanted to do projects in the city during those 7 years. A total waste.

I am so very sorry that I cast my vote in 2001 for Kwame Kilpatrick. Back in '01, we had so much to look forward to, and we thought he was the best choice, certainly better than Gil Hill. On the eve of '11, we know how wrong we were.

I can't even self-righteously say that I saw it by '05. In '05, I was torn between Kilpatrick and Hendrix, and wanted to vote for "none of the above." But that spring, I lost my job and moved out of the city, and like many, had no more say.

I'm so sorry for my bad judgment. Sorry that I ever cast that vote. And wondering what the 00s in Detroit would have been like with a Mayor Gil Hill.

[leland_palmer]

It was interesting to discover that there was a plan in place to redevelop Ford Auditorium. However, the firm did not want to hire Bernard to complete the deal, so it fell through.

[LodgeDodger]

I am so very sorry that I cast my vote in 2001 for Kwame Kilpatrick. Back in '01, we had so much to look forward to, and we thought he was the best choice, certainly better than Gil Hill. On the eve of '11, we know how wrong we were.

I can't even self-righteously say that I saw it by '05. In '05, I was torn between Kilpatrick and Hendrix, and wanted to vote for "none of the above." But that spring, I lost my job and moved out of the city, and like many, had no more say.

I'm so sorry for my bad judgment. Sorry that I ever cast that vote. And wondering what the 00s in Detroit would have been like with a Mayor Gil Hill.

Don't be so hard on yourself--many folks were taken in by KK. Had he been an honest man, he could have run for any political office in this country, and won. He was smart, handsome, and passionate. He threw it all away.

[softailrider]

I am so very sorry that I cast my vote in 2001 for Kwame Kilpatrick. Back in '01, we had so much to look forward to, and we thought he was the best choice, certainly better than Gil Hill. On the eve of '11, we know how wrong we were.

I can't even self-righteously say that I saw it by '05. In '05, I was torn between Kilpatrick and Hendrix, and wanted to vote for "none of the above." But that spring, I lost my job and moved out of the city, and like many, had no more say.

I'm so sorry for my bad judgment. Sorry that I ever cast that vote. And wondering what the 00s in Detroit would have been like with a Mayor Gil Hill.

Couldn't have been any worse.

[Zacha341]

Been there done that Eng... I too voted for KK the first round and then sorta 'fell out' with my some in my family when I refused to vote for him the second time! LOL! When tip of the corruption ice berg started to break forth, I was like these are not isolated events, or 'stumbles' but a systemic pattern afoot. I was right. And stand by not voting him in second time...

I am so very sorry that I cast my vote in 2001 for Kwame Kilpatrick. Back in '01, we had so much to look forward to, and we thought he was the best choice, certainly better than Gil Hill. On the eve of '11, we know how wrong we were.

I can't even self-righteously say that I saw it by '05. In '05, I was torn between Kilpatrick and Hendrix, and wanted to vote for "none of the above." But that spring, I lost my job and moved out of the city, and like many, had no more say.

I'm so sorry for my bad judgment. Sorry that I ever cast that vote. And wondering what the 00s in Detroit would have been like with a Mayor Gil Hill.

[RedeemerKid]

Karmanos giving him the job is what bugs me. He's one guy at the top that should be a little bit concerned. Though the reality is nothing will come of it.
Gotta admit though in 2008 when this all came down I never would have thought that so many would have been exposed. And its going to even get better in a few minutes.

There is a theory that by standing by Kwame so firmly, Peter Karmanos is either extremely naive or he is corrupt.

I find it hard to believe that an extremely successful businessman like him could be that naive.

[bartock]

There is a theory that by standing by Kwame so firmly, Peter Karmanos is either extremely naive or he is corrupt.

I find it hard to believe that an extremely successful businessman like him could be that naive.

I still think that Karmanos is neither. Ethics aside, like Kwame's mom, he is smart enough to stay insulated from the "open" corruption.

Of course this is all conjecture, but had CCK survived this last primary, I think Karmanos would have had a windfall. This is how Karmanos has operated with politicians. He had a tight relationship with Archer, who I think is still on Compuware's BOD.

If I recall, CCK was on the Appropriations Committee and Compuware was or still is competing for a billion dollar federal contract for medical software. He put all of his chips in on her son early, and felt he had to continue to play that hand out.


I'm with kenp in believing that Kwame was never actually reelected.

[Novine]

For all the bashing I've done on DEGC, it's good to see that someone over there wasn't intimidated by the Kwame machine:

"Ferguson was not successful in other areas. According to the indictment, Kilpatrick tried to get Ferguson work on the Westin Book-Cadillac renovations, and on the project to demolish Tiger Stadium. When Ferguson did not get the work from the Detroit Economic Growth Corp., Kilpatrick tried to get the DEGC official removed, sending his chief of staff, Kandia Milton, to demand that official’s resignation. The DEGC official would not resign, the indictment said."

http://detnews.com/article/20101216/...-hire-Ferguson

[RedeemerKid]

I still think that Karmanos is neither. Ethics aside, like Kwame's mom, he is smart enough to stay insulated from the "open" corruption.

Of course this is all conjecture, but had CCK survived this last primary, I think Karmanos would have had a windfall. This is how Karmanos has operated with politicians. He had a tight relationship with Archer, who I think is still on Compuware's BOD.

If I recall, CCK was on the Appropriations Committee and Compuware was or still is competing for a billion dollar federal contract for medical software. He put all of his chips in on her son early, and felt he had to continue to play that hand out.


I'm with kenp in believing that Kwame was never actually reelected.

I guess to further the point, an argument could be made that the reason Karmanos stood by Kwame [["loaned" him $250k and gave him a job) is that he either:

1) Naively believed Kwame to be a good stand up guy who was a victim in all of this, and was deserving of a break.

2) Did it as you seem to speculate, in return for political favors from Kwame or the Kilpatrick inner circle. Some might characterize this active participation in a political "quid pro quo" as being some level of corruption. But I guess that's life in the big city, and big business.

[swingline]

Idle musings on this latest indictment which is clearly a racially and politically motivated persecution of a family that is being unfairly hounded in the extreme [[just kidding):

• Mr. Ferguson and Mr. Kilpatrick put the elbow on Walbridge Aldinger [["Company W"). This was pretty dumb. Walbridge plays in the big leagues nationally. They make enough money legally and are smart enough to avoid engaging in corruption on federal contracts. They were more than happy to cooperate when the FBI showed up. BTW, Walbridge sued DWSD regarding the Oakwood Pump Station contract. Not sure of the outcome.

• Would like to know who was the DEGC official who refused to let Mr. Ferguson in on the Tiger Stadium demolition contract? And who was the high level administration official who demanded the DEGC official's resignation? Very interesting. The DEGC showed no integrity in cancelling the Tiger Stadium Conservancy proposed project. They redeemed themselves in a small way by standing up to the ex-mayor on the demolition contract.

• Bernard Kilpatrick's greed/stupidity was so overwhelming that he was still putting the squeeze on Karl Kado when it was obvious to a ten year old that the FBI was listening to everything. In September 2005, Mr. Kado learned that he was the target of an FBI investigation and informed Bernard Kilpatrick of that fact. The existence of the investigation into Detroit corruption became common public knowledge and a frequent media subject in 2006-07. In January 2008 the text messaging scandal erupted shining an enormous spotlight on the ex-mayor and all kinds of dubious conduct of his inner circle including his father. Yet in March 2008, Bernard Kilpatrick meets Mr. Kado at a restaurant and solicits more kickbacks in a conversation that the indictment makes clear was picked up on a wire.

[Novine]

"Would like to know who was the DEGC official who refused to let Mr. Ferguson in on the Tiger Stadium demolition contract? And who was the high level administration official who demanded the DEGC official's resignation? Very interesting. The DEGC showed no integrity in cancelling the Tiger Stadium Conservancy proposed project. They redeemed themselves in a small way by standing up to the ex-mayor on the demolition contract."

Cynics might point out that DEGC already had "favorites" in the demolition business but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

[kenp]

Cynics might point out that DEGC already had "favorites" in the demolition business but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

They wanted that thing torn down badly, why? What was the rush? I dont give them the benefit of the doubt.

I wonder how much $$ kk has stashed. I always assumed its in the hands of his friends, family, henchmen..... Though it disgusts me, the best thing is for kk to get a lot of prison time and the "holders" of the money decide to spend it

[dtrrman]

Idle musings on this latest indictment which is clearly a racially and politically motivated persecution of a family that is being unfairly hounded in the extreme [[just kidding):

• Mr. Ferguson and Mr. Kilpatrick put the elbow on Walbridge Aldinger [["Company W"). This was pretty dumb. Walbridge plays in the big leagues nationally. They make enough money legally and are smart enough to avoid engaging in corruption on federal contracts. They were more than happy to cooperate when the FBI showed up. BTW, Walbridge sued DWSD regarding the Oakwood Pump Station contract. Not sure of the outcome.

• Would like to know who was the DEGC official who refused to let Mr. Ferguson in on the Tiger Stadium demolition contract? And who was the high level administration official who demanded the DEGC official's resignation? Very interesting. The DEGC showed no integrity in cancelling the Tiger Stadium Conservancy proposed project. They redeemed themselves in a small way by standing up to the ex-mayor on the demolition contract.

• Bernard Kilpatrick's greed/stupidity was so overwhelming that he was still putting the squeeze on Karl Kado when it was obvious to a ten year old that the FBI was listening to everything. In September 2005, Mr. Kado learned that he was the target of an FBI investigation and informed Bernard Kilpatrick of that fact. The existence of the investigation into Detroit corruption became common public knowledge and a frequent media subject in 2006-07. In January 2008 the text messaging scandal erupted shining an enormous spotlight on the ex-mayor and all kinds of dubious conduct of his inner circle including his father. Yet in March 2008, Bernard Kilpatrick meets Mr. Kado at a restaurant and solicits more kickbacks in a conversation that the indictment makes clear was picked up on a wire.

As far as your third paragraph is concerned. Both KK and his father are BOTH as dumb as a box of rocks. This kind of blatant corruption smacks of unbridled arrogance and some kind of sense of entitlement invulnerability. KK always came accross to me as thinking he was the smartest man in any room he walked into. always believed he could outsmart, out talk, and out think anybody that threatened him. Thats a total disconnect from reality and that has nothing to do with intelligence. This is narccisstic ignorance of the highest order. Most people of that type are gifted pathalogical liers that create worlds in their heads. This clown, KK, thought he was untouchable. His father comes acrross as a complete dotard. Nothing more than a parasite. The whole bunch are amoral. When somebody thinks they are the smartest person on earth, he is truly the most ignorant.

[Downtown Lady]

Would like to know who was the DEGC official who refused to let Mr. Ferguson in on the Tiger Stadium demolition contract? And who was the high level administration official who demanded the DEGC official's resignation? Very interesting. The DEGC showed no integrity in cancelling the Tiger Stadium Conservancy proposed project. They redeemed themselves in a small way by standing up to the ex-mayor on the demolition contract.

I'm told by someone who used to work at the DEGC that the DEGC official to whom they're referring is George Jackson himself. The indictment states that Kwame sent Kandia Milton to demand George Jackson's resignation [[page 35).

[leland_palmer]

I'm told by someone who used to work at the DEGC that the DEGC official to whom they're referring is George Jackson himself. The indictment states that Kwame sent Kandia Milton to demand George Jackson's resignation [[page 35).

Kwame Kenyatta confirmed this this morning on Mildred's show.

[mtm49269]

IMHO, instead of putting them in cushy fed. pens for years on end, I'd rather they be made to pay FULL restitution. KK's probably got $$s stashed all over the world but they should make him and his family pay back EVERY penny. It was mentioned somewhere that Carlita was also misusing funds on her own so let her pay, too.