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[aj3647]

Lol if him being an billionaire and a president of the United States qualifies as an idiot and moron in your book,what would that make you?

an underachiever?

That he got elected by morons does not make him less of a moron. And being rich does not convey intelligence, little boy. He was born into wealth, how does that make him smart?

In Trump's defense, he misspells fewer words in his tweets than you do in your posts. That's not to say that he doesn't mangle the English language, just not to the same extent as the grammatical abortions you post here.

[aj3647]

Nine of the ten states with the highest CV-19 death rate have Democratic Governors. The other is Massachusetts. Subtract the Democratic run states and United States numbers look a lot better.

It would be interesting to add up CV deaths in the 1/3 of states that voted most for Hillary and the 1/3 of states that with the highest percentages for Trump to find out how many times more likely voters in the bluest of states are to die than residents of the reddest states. We do know that NY State under Cuomo has has 1,197 deaths per 1M residents and the US under President Trump has 185 deaths/1M residents including the NY results. The average NY State resident is therefore 6.5x as likely to have died than the average U.S. citizen. I can't figure out why so many Democrats hold Cuomo in such high regards after almost leading the world in per capita deaths.

Regarding predictions, Trump was also crowing about how initial guesstimates were a million but that it looked more like 80,000-100,000 at one point. What does it matter when New York City became the world's epicenter of the pandemic? How can anyone anticipate what Democrats will do? Hey, I've got a great idea; use CV=19 funds to subsidize the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts and NPR. That should help end the pandemic.

So their deaths don't count if you perceive those who died to have been "liberal" or even not liberal but simply lived in a state with a Democratic governor? You are absolutely fucking vile.

Seek professional help because you are truly deranged.

[Dan Wesson]

Who do you believe? Tara Reade or Joe Bidens Campaign.

[Jimaz]

Trump erupts at campaign manager as reelection stress overflows

[oladub]

So their deaths don't count if you perceive those who died to have been "liberal" or even not liberal but simply lived in a state with a Democratic governor? You are absolutely fucking vile.

Seek professional help because you are truly deranged.

I neither said nor suggested that. You definitely need help with your reading comprehension. Electing Democratic governors is just one way of defining whether a state is blue or red. I suggested alternatively using 2016 presidential election statistics as a more accurate way of doing the same thing. On the contrary, I think it is shocking that there is such disparity between average CV-19 death rates in the bluest vs the reddest of states. It is also surprising that more attention isn't paid to that correlation. Maybe it doesn't fit a narrative. I am also probably more curious than you seem to be about causation vs. correlation as to why blue states, on average, have so many more per capita CV-19 deaths than red states. Does anyone think it is just coincidence? If not, then there are reasons why there is a positive correlation with voting patterns and CV-19 death rates.

Speaking about not counting deaths in blue states as being "vile", some 'pro-life' advocates would point out that blue states are more likely to support abortion. That's different of course. Virtually no one, even in blue states, wants CV-19 deaths but we are still stuck with the fact that there is a on average a positive correlation with CV-19 deaths and blue states.

[rb336]

Who do you believe? Tara Reade or Joe Bidens Campaign.

Here, have a read:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3046962001/

There are numerous reasons to doubt her story.

[canuck]

That he got elected by morons does not make him less of a moron. And being rich does not convey intelligence, little boy. He was born into wealth, how does that make him smart?

In Trump's defense, he misspells fewer words in his tweets than you do in your posts. That's not to say that he doesn't mangle the English language, just not to the same extent as the grammatical abortions you post here.

Kudos on keeping the adjectives restrained, but abortion, as apt as it sounds, is still a weak descriptor in Richard’s case.

[Dan Wesson]

Here, have a read:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3046962001/

There are numerous reasons to doubt her story.

opinion piece first.

Here's one where the same author says...

"In her report, Mitchell does what no prosecutor should do—she attempts to discredit the victim of a sexual assault."

Michael J Stern

Michael J. Stern was a state prosecutor outside of Detroit and a federal prosecutor, for 25 years, in Detroit and Los Angeles


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...rd-report.html



shoes on the other foot.

[rb336]

opinion piece first.

You need to learn the difference between an opinion piece based on fact. And you need to actually READ what you link to, which far from discredits Christine Blasey Ford, it actually supports her claims - and shows her conduct to be EXACTLY the opposite of Reade's.

[Dan Wesson]

You need to learn the difference between an opinion piece based on fact. And you need to actually READ what you link to, which far from discredits Christine Blasey Ford, it actually supports her claims - and shows her conduct to be EXACTLY the opposite of Reade's.

What does that say above the header?



And no it wasnt meant to discredit Christine, just to show that the author has a bias.

That and nothing more.

Hat tip to Zacha for the meme...

Flail away cause:

[rb336]

What does that say above the header?

This, and the rest of your post, makes no point at all.

[Dan Wesson]

I have this feeling you and I have been thru this before with the same results.

Deja Vu

Carry on

[Maof]

I's bad enough he doesn't lead by example by not wearing a mask but, why the choice of music or playing music at all.

https://youtu.be/KzRhcjOG1es

[Zacha341]

Yep. They should have all been masked. Goodness! 007 Music funny......

[Richard]

I's bad enough he doesn't lead by example by not wearing a mask but, why the choice of music or playing music at all.

https://youtu.be/KzRhcjOG1es

I have not stopped working sense this started,have not even bought a mask,I have been a very bad person,and yet I still cannot find somebody to give me a spanking for bad behavior,dispite the atrocities I have committed by not wearing a mask.

Probably 20% at best I see in public are wearing masks,some even driving in cars by themselves are wearing masks.

Bet cha nobody wears a mask during flu season which killed 60,000 this year and 80,000 last but did not really,nobody was concerned or cared about preventing that spread.

But now all of the sudden are,because they said so.

What is really interesting is when you see the video of the police breaking up the open back up protesting around the world,they are not wearing masks.

The Governor in Naples Italy said,If I see graduation crowds forming we will break them up with flame throwers.

A pizza shop in Naples Italy that has been in the same location for 150 years and currently owned by the same family for 5 generations,has listed now as the only time in history that they have shut the doors,even bombs in WW2 did not stop them.

I am a hypocrite though because if I did not care about stopping the spread of the flu,why should I care about wearing a mask now?

The irony is so thick you could build an entire fleet of dreadnaught ships and still have enough left over for a back yard swing set.

[Maof]

Let not compare Covid to the flu ok? The number of deaths from covid has exceeded the number of deaths from the flu. There is no vaccine for covid. In my neck of the woods, everyone is wearing a mask. If I remember correctly, you had a heart issue recently? You, of all people, should be wearing one but, that's your choice, selfish as it is.

[rb336]

The Governor in Naples Italy said,If I see graduation crowds forming we will break them up with flame throwers.

Naples does not have a governor. Campania, the region of Italy Naples is in, has a President. No governors to be seen.

[Richard]

Let not compare Covid to the flu ok? The number of deaths from covid has exceeded the number of deaths from the flu. There is no vaccine for covid. In my neck of the woods, everyone is wearing a mask. If I remember correctly, you had a heart issue recently? You, of all people, should be wearing one but, that's your choice, selfish as it is.

Its called,calculated risk assessment.

Did you know the daily Covid 19 fatalities that are reported every day are not actually pertaining to that day.

The Covid19 numbers are imputed into the system manually and it takes the minimum of 7 days for them to display.

The total displayed today is actually deaths that occurred 7 to 14 days ago.

We will not even know if the “curve is flattening” until 14 days after it already has.

Here is some reading,notice the headings that list Covid deaths and other deaths,anybody wanna do the math on that?

There is a massive amount of space in between Covid deaths verses everyday deaths,what is the percentage?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/

If you notice in that link they are finally disclosing where the flu went,it appears it was still the leading cause of death with higher numbers then Covid,so yea it is comparable.

It a 14 day incubation period,if the country did not decrease the spread in the start of the lock down period it’s not about to start now.

I have admitted I am horrible in math,well anything over 10 anyways,but in order to measure something,do you not have to start with a fixed point?

Where is ours?

Public shaming is so nostalgic,it brings us right back to the witch burning days.

Michigan

Covid19 deaths 2,238

Total deaths from all causes 29,029

Pneumonia deaths 2,973

As it stands today more have passed from Pneumonia then Covid19.

[Richard]

Naples does not have a governor. Campania, the region of Italy Naples is in, has a President. No governors to be seen.

Yea I did not feel it was necessary to educate the group on the governmental power structure of Italy,I figured it would have been a little anal retentive.

No problem with a government threatening to disperse a graduation party with a flame thrower,just make sure everything is spelled correctly and it matters if it is a governor or a president.

Even more so when coming from a country with a history of fascism,I bet they are delighted that they have supporters to the cause in the US.

[Zacha341]

Interestingly, Moaf, now there's talk of a second wave, and yet the debate that C-19 is merely the annual flu persists. SMH...

The quick-onset and high incidences of death in certain areas [[for example 1000+ in Detroit in 45+ Days) sets COVID-19 apart from the seasonal flu. I don't need president Trump, et al to affirm, or confirm the impact and distinction of C-19 [[and risk factors therein) for me or my family, my city, my community.

Even factoring in that 10% of Detroit's deaths weren't C-19, the number has been devastating beyond previous flu seasons. Yet that information is interpreted differently, by individuals and law makers alike across the nation. And so it goes...

But, the victory over C-19 will NOT be found in holding a FIXED un-mutable position as to its outworking and consequence.

We know many Detroiter's have died but the numbers have also dropped. Thus, ADAPTING our understanding, as to how it might shift and change is crucial.

This includes areas nationwide were outbreak area, may start to see higher numbers.

I get that politics and priorities are local. Responses for COVID-19 cannot be one-size-fits all. People will respond to and feel about it per who/ or if it's has touched their lives. And NO, I don't agree with the 'snitchin' NYC's governance justified upon people against each other - big brother. Which will probably only increase their C-19 infections - shame on them.

That is not the America I want live in [[pre-or post COVID-19).

You can't make people comply, they will do just the opposite. Reflexively. Unless you have a totalitarian state such as in China. It is my hope that more people see the benefit of masking on their own terms. I did mid-March [[I started to wear mask then).

We see that some on the right and the left of the COVID-19 pandemic want to shame, force, mandate, intimidate etc. For example, open up the states full-out vs. reporting on any one not wearing a mask to the 'authorities'!

For example, if we have employers FORCING people to work, say for a company with a low-risk perspective [[no or low PPE options) re. the virus [[forcing you to sign forms protecting the company to that end).

Is that victory over the shaming option?

Nope. Neither will help this country rebound financial or socially.

Sadly, this is a virus that some get despite best efforts seemingly and other don't walking about un-masked, up close with other.

That un-predictability factor itself of COVID-19 speaks to why we cannot be too modest in understanding, and again ADAPTING our understanding, as to how it might shift and change.

Especially if we see short waves of the virus, up and down thru the calendar year. Again unlike the seasonal flu.

For short-term, as we watch the trajectory of C-19, I think the response for a while, beyond the debates must be individual as much a possible will be to avoid personal risks as one can. That might be included for the short-term avoiding visiting other states which may or may not factoring in COVID-19 to the same level as others.

Employment options will have to change. As some jobs may remain high risk.

Again politics and priorities tend to be local, and ones concern for their own health may increasingly have to be personal, which means alot less socialization, as a personal decision. Again, we must remain adaptable in our understanding, considering COVID-19 is not as stable as our narratives would desire.

I will choose to wear a mask, for a while yet.

Let not compare Covid to the flu ok? The number of deaths from covid has exceeded the number of deaths from the flu. There is no vaccine for covid. In my neck of the woods, everyone is wearing a mask. If I remember correctly, you had a heart issue recently? You, of all people, should be wearing one but, that's your choice, selfish as it is.

[Richard]

The president vetoed a resolution put forth by the House that eliminated any further military action and remove US troops engaged In military actions in Iran unless Congress declared war or authorized the use of military force.

Interesting how they had no problem with the previous administration that engaged in military action and started 3 “wars”.

Any president has power to act immediately military wise if there is a immediate threat against the security and safety of the United States.

There was a reason the founding fathers created a system of separation in between the powers of government so no one can have to much power,for some reason the Dems want to continue to test that system and push it in their favor.

So If intelligence comes across information that Iran based terrorists are planning an attack on US soil in two days,according to what was put forth by the house,the president would have to spend a week or two waiting for the house to approve action in order to prevent it.

[rb336]

Interesting how they had no problem with the previous administration that engaged in military action and started 3 “wars”.

What wars, exactly, did the Obama administration start?

[oladub]

What wars, exactly, did the Obama administration start?

Two-

Obama bombed the capital of Libya and otherwise helped overthrow Khaddafi. If someone bombed our capital, we would consider it an act of war.

The Obama administration knew ISIS "to be growing in Syria but did nothing to stop or oppose it because the U.S. wanted to use it as a bargaining chip in order to make the secular, democratically elected President, Bashar al-Assad “negotiate,” which, of course, simply means stepping down and allowing a proxy president and Western-backed terror coalition to take his place." This effort to overthrow Assad was so sloppy that a CIA funded rebel group fought a Pentagon funded rebel group. Other friendly rebels sold and handed over their U.S. provided weapons to ISIS.

It is difficult to imagine anything more craven and cynical than allowing ISIS to burn girls' schools, cut parts off of living people, drown, burn, and otherwise torture people in the hope of overthrowing Assad. Yet, this was Obama foreign policy. The attempt to overthrow Assad with proxies failed and resulted in Assad asking Russia to come to his aid. It also was an act of war.

These two Obama foreign policy catastrophes resulted in hundreds of thousands of Arab deaths [[dead 'brown people' in identity politics lingo), millions of refugees, and widespread destruction. Europe has been destabilized by the refugees. Russia put bases in Syria. Libya was turned from one of the most affluent Arab countries into something like Somalia. No wonder Joe Biden was happy to have Obama's endorsement.

[Richard]

U.S. military forces have been at war for all eight years of Obama’s tenure, the first two-term president with that distinction. He launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan.

His legacy got crushed like a bug,like it should have been

Obama considers his diplomatic achievements — particularly the nuclear deal with Iran, the Paris agreement to fight climate change and a restoration of diplomatic relations with Cuba — to be his primary foreign policy legacy.


https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-...-obama-at-war/

I picked a nice liberal site just for rb .

[rb336]

U.S. military forces have been at war for all eight years of Obama’s tenure, the first two-term president with that distinction. He launched airstrikes or military raids in at least seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan.

His legacy got crushed like a bug,like it should have been

Obama considers his diplomatic achievements — particularly the nuclear deal with Iran, the Paris agreement to fight climate change and a restoration of diplomatic relations with Cuba — to be his primary foreign policy legacy.


https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-...-obama-at-war/

I picked a nice liberal site just for rb .

And...which of those did he start? Oh, right. NONE OF THEM. Per the source YOU used:

"Obama slashed the number of U.S. troops in war zones from 150,000 to 14,000, and stopped the flow of American soldiers coming home in body bags. He also used diplomacy, not war, to defuse a tense nuclear standoff with Iran."

And that raid in Pakistan? Two words: Bin Laden