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    Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
    Well would you rather the government "socialize" how big Wal-Mart [[or any american business) can grow, when/where they can do business and how much money they can profit? I don't recall America being founded on those principles.
    Remember the East India Tea Company and the Boston Tea Party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jams View Post
    Remember the East India Tea Company and the Boston Tea Party?
    Yes, what does that have to do with the discussion at hand?

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    "I don't recall America being found & growing on those economic principles."

    No, it was founded through the slave labor of Africans and the forced labor of those serving in indentured servitude. Throw in the appropriation of native American lands and you have a pretty good handle on the economics at the founding of the US. Which aspects of that system do you admire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novine View Post
    "I don't recall America being found & growing on those economic principles."

    No, it was founded through the slave labor of Africans and the forced labor of those serving in indentured servitude. Throw in the appropriation of native American lands and you have a pretty good handle on the economics at the founding of the US. Which aspects of that system do you admire?
    It depends...

    Well would you rather the government "regulate" [[socialism) how big Wal-Mart [[or any american business) can grow, when/where they can do business and how much money they can profit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novine View Post
    "I don't recall America being found & growing on those economic principles."

    No, it was founded through the slave labor of Africans and the forced labor of those serving in indentured servitude. Throw in the appropriation of native American lands and you have a pretty good handle on the economics at the founding of the US. Which aspects of that system do you admire?

    Through that same system we grew as a country and have done away with slave labor and indentured servitude. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for some countries within the African continent. Which of those countries do you admire the most?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novine View Post
    "I don't recall America being found & growing on those economic principles."

    No, it was founded through the slave labor of Africans and the forced labor of those serving in indentured servitude. Throw in the appropriation of native American lands and you have a pretty good handle on the economics at the founding of the US. Which aspects of that system do you admire?
    If you loathe this county so much, why are you still here? Are terrible nation that you apparently hate so much allows you the freedom to depart.

    Which Old World nation do you admire most, that had no history of economic exploitation at some point?

    This should be good ...
    Last edited by BShea; June-03-10 at 01:40 PM. Reason: Typos

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    Quote Originally Posted by BShea View Post
    If you loathe this county so much, why are you still here? Are terrible nation that you apparently hate so much allows you the freedom to depart.

    Which Old World nation do you admire most, that had no history of economic exploitation at some point?

    This should be good ...
    The usual response made to a point for which you have no rational counterpoint.

    Try AMERICA, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.

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    Well would you rather the government "regulate" [[socialism) how big Wal-Mart [[or any american business) can grow, when/where they can do business and how much money they can profit?
    regulating corporations is NOT socialism, by any definition. Right now, if you truly value your freedom, you should hope governments start to protect people from the predations of the multi-national corporations. Unless you want to embrace the new feudalism

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    Quote Originally Posted by jams View Post
    The usual response made to a point for which you have no rational counterpoint.

    Try AMERICA, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.
    It's a counterpoint to an intellectually slothful strawman.

    He wants to whine about slavery and exploitation in contextless criticism of the United States, but is unable to provide an alternative without such problematic history. I understand why he can't: Just about everywhere else on Earth is as bad or worse.

    It's fun and easy to be against something. At some point you have to grow up and be for something. I can love my county and love our system while acknowledge it's not perfect. No place or system is.

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