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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimaz View Post
    Aww. Those poor conservatives. They've been so insufficiently coddled for so many years. Don't they deserve even more coddling? Where's your heart, people?

    Adopt a billionaire! They're so, so, needy!
    Not sure how all those conservative farmers and small town tradesmen who are conservative are coddled compared with let's say the future deadbeat management class that have their loans forgiven but I'll pick Elon Musk. You can have Soros, Sam Bankman-Fried and Zuckerberg. The pendulum has swung and Democrats are once again becoming the party of the rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    Not sure how all those conservative farmers and small town tradesmen who are conservative are coddled compared with let's say the future deadbeat management class that have their loans forgiven but I'll pick Elon Musk. You can have Soros, Sam Bankman-Fried and Zuckerberg. The pendulum has swung and Democrats are once again becoming the party of the rich.
    Claiming that the Democrats are the party of the rich is about as delusional as the pathetic attempt to claim that the GOP is better on civil rights because they were in 1861. [[Long before that pesky political realignment occurred and the Dixiecrats all fled to the GOP.)
    Last edited by DetroiterOnTheWestCoast; March-28-24 at 10:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroiterOnTheWestCoast View Post
    Claiming that the Democrats are the party of the rich is about as delusional as the pathetic attempt to claim that the GOP is better on civil rights because they were in 1861. [[Long before that pesky political realignment occurred and the Dixiecrats all fled to the GOP.)
    I wrote that "The pendulum has swung and Democrats are once again becoming the party of the rich.". I did not write that "the Democrats are the party of the rich" as you incorrectly claimed. Becoming something is not the same tense as being something.

    Let's go back to the Civil War when Republicans were the progressives ending slavery and democrats were the old rich in the south who owned slaves. That all changed and by FDR's time, Democrats were championing working people. But as I put it, "the pendulum is swinging the other way". Billionaires are now split between the merchants' and industrialists' old wealth and the Silicon Valley new wealth. The first group being largely Republican and the second Democrats. All twenty of the richest zip codes vote blue. Democrats tried to regain the SALT tax deductions for the rich they enjoyed before Trump. Blue collar whites have become increasingly Republican going back to Reagan Democrats with an early epicenter in St. Clair Shores. Trump's share in the 2020 election of black, Hispanic, Asian-American was greater than his percentage of those groups in 2016. Meanwhile, upper middle class whites more than offset those Republican gains by moving into the blue column. Snooty Democratic rhetoric has increasingly delegated working whites as "a basket of deplorables", as 'uneducated' and we saw the cartoon Jimez posted stereotyping Republicans and Christians.

    More recently, Democrats have allowed the Country to be flooded with cheaper foreign labor, fentanyl, and pushed abortions. It is not a healthy environment for American workers. Since covid, the fastest growing labor group is immigrants while non immigrant jobs have declined. Tyson just laid off 1,400 worker and signed up to hire 2200 undocumented aliens once they are given working papers. Poor Americans pay scales will not go up in a job market flooded with cheaper foreign labor but the rich are reaping huge profits We cannot build housing fast enough to meet the needs of the numbers Biden is importing so housing prices will remain out of reach for working Americans while Blackrock, a company that contributes to Democrats, buys up new housing to rent out. I see trends supporting my statement that "the pendulum is swinging the other way".

    California, by the way, has the greatest wealth disparity in America, some of the highest taxes, largest state debt, and most expensive housing in the Nation. Maybe you should work on that.

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    Yep. What's up with that?

    How do these 'policies' [what else should we call them? Omissions? Gaffs?] advance anything for our communities.

    Incoherent to think they do.

    Eventually this madness will reach Detroit.

    With organizations such as PP pulling up the rear.

    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    More recently, Democrats have allowed the Country to be flooded with cheaper foreign labor, fentanyl, and pushed abortions. It is not a healthy environment for American workers. Since covid, the fastest growing labor group is immigrants while non immigrant jobs have declined. Tyson just laid off 1,400 worker and signed up to hire 2200 undocumented aliens once they are given working papers...
    Last edited by Zacha341; March-29-24 at 03:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    Yep. What's up with that?

    How do these 'policies' [what else should we call them? Omissions? Gaffs?] advance anything for our communities.

    Incoherent to think they do.

    Eventually this madness will reach Detroit.

    With organizations such as PP pulling up the rear.

    Uncle Joe didn't like the way the election was going, so he imported new voters. Why not? It's not his money going down the tubes. He's raising taxes.

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    Hah! I'm not understanding why this remains such a dem vs repub debate?

    It's clear that both parties have interests in [and have acted at the behest of] wealth building accrued to their highest fellow, fraternal elites.

    We see this aggregation of wealth and power in capitalism, and in socialism etc. despite the claims to the contrary. History bears this out.

    Once that's understood the tit-for-tat argument wanes and we can get down to the business of championing the actual interests of middle america [against the bi-costal elite left for example].

    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    Not sure how all those conservative farmers and small town tradesmen who are conservative are coddled compared with let's say the future deadbeat management class that have their loans forgiven but I'll pick Elon Musk. You can have Soros, Sam Bankman-Fried and Zuckerberg. The pendulum has swung and Democrats are once again becoming the party of the rich.
    Last edited by Zacha341; March-29-24 at 03:13 AM.

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