2017-18 Detroit Red Wings -- thoughts.

[EGrant]

According to ESPN, the Wings have sold out every single game this season. Yeah ok. I don't trust published attendance numbers for one second.

The team stinks, tickets are too expensive, and I think both the Wings and Pistons sold a ton of tickets to corporations and brokers. There's no demand to see these teams at all, so no one shows up [[but the tickets are still counted as sold and sit in the hands of some third party reseller or you company's administrative assistant).

I'd say Detroit sports fans aren't that great. With the exception of the NFL [[which has only 8 home games, tailgate culture and its the most popular sport), Detroit sports fans only support a winning team. The years after Comerica Park opened and the team was bad, that place was empty as well. The Pistons haven't drawn a good crowd since 2008 and the Wings are finding out that putting out a bad team isn't going to cut it, despite all the history and blabbing on about "Hockeytown"

[Lombaowski]

According to ESPN, the Wings have sold out every single game this season. Yeah ok. I don't trust published attendance numbers for one second.

You should have just stopped here, you're out of your bubble of expertise. Obviously...

[EGrant]

You should have just stopped here, you're out of your bubble of expertise. Obviously...

Your point? I used the attendance numbers from ESPN provided from the teams, but here's another source if you don't trust ESPN's statistics. The Wings are reporting 100% attendance, but clearly, they are not filling up the arenas, unless half the Wings fans dress up exactly like an empty seat.

Anyway, the upper deck sounded cool in concept [[gondola seating, steep grade, etc.) but in practice, it has created a cramped, vertigo-inducing environment where the giant gondola looms over fans and makes you feel like you're in the roof or something. Lower bowl is fantastic and the concourses are the best in sports, but the upper bowl isn't worth any price of admission.