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    You never hear the question, "will Oakland County ever elect a black County Executive?" or "will Grosse Pointe have a black mayor?" I think Detroit electing a white mayor is more likely than either of those. Black voters have been voting for white candidates since blacks got the right to vote; it's white voters that historically have trouble voting for black candidates.

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    Interesting... Some of the remaining custodial social elite, political rhetoricians, rank & file and person-at-the-coney island etc. still push the "can't let them steal our Jewels" yah-dah world view.

    But that's getting REALLY old and tarnished [[pun intended) and simply impractical. And crime is increasing, and the squalor is getting hard to avoid as the even the safer areas erode and the middle and upper class continue to flee. Including the estimable 'stealing the jewels' crowd who'd now prefer to offer their discord from the other side of eight mile and beyond!!

    COUNT ME IN: I'd vote for a strong, dedicated, relevant, candidate with a solid and practical vision, showing forth an applicable program and integration of resources who's not part of the "corruption syndicate" lineage no matter what race!!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Melocoton View Post
    You never hear the question, "will Oakland County ever elect a black County Executive?" or "will Grosse Pointe have a black mayor?" I think Detroit electing a white mayor is more likely than either of those. Black voters have been voting for white candidates since blacks got the right to vote; it's white voters that historically have trouble voting for black candidates.
    Last edited by Zacha341; August-08-11 at 03:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melocoton View Post
    You never hear the question, "will Oakland County ever elect a black County Executive?" or "will Grosse Pointe have a black mayor?" I think Detroit electing a white mayor is more likely than either of those. Black voters have been voting for white candidates since blacks got the right to vote; it's white voters that historically have trouble voting for black candidates.
    Yes we would.If they have a proven track record of fiscal awareness.We voted for Barry the Fool,er community org,er voted present with no clue....

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckycar View Post
    Yes we would.If they have a proven track record of fiscal awareness.We voted for Barry the Fool,er community org,er voted present with no clue....
    Yep. And a lot of white folks all over the country are telling each other they'll never make that mistake again... hey, they gave the black guy three good years... a fair chance, and as much time as they gave the...

    Oh, wait.

    Black Americans are voting with their feet all over the country and especially in Detroit. If they had any problem living in places with white mayors, the suburbs of the United States wouldn't be diversifying.

    Also, there are several white Detroit political activists whom I believe would be great as mayor. I went to high school with a rising star in the Democratic Party. He's a politically active white guy, very respected, and comes from a labor/political family. If he threw his hat in the ring, I'd sign up with him tomorrow...

    ...because he's not afraid of black people. He's a lifelong Detroiter who knows the entire city, not just parts of it. Now, you don't have to be from here, but you do have to do what it takes.

    If you're reading this, and you're white, and have political ambitions in this city, you've got to get around to the entire city. We had some great folks up for Charter Commission, a few of whom even post here, but you've got to work the Inner City Sub Center as much as you do Corktown. You've got to get to the churches and the black Greeks. You've got to talk to everyone, even if you disagree, even if you think that the citizens are illiterates and their leaders are a bunch of clowns... and you can't show them that, either. You've got to make common cause with the people and feel as if their voices are heard. [[I hate to say this, but I've figured out that here in Detroit, it's not what you do for people, it's whether or not you listen to their concerns, and don't look down on them. Yes, I know. But that's the way it is.)

    I am sure that we'll have a Latino councilperson from SW Detroit in 2013; perhaps we'll also have some white council members IF they actually do the tough work of dealing with the Detroit political machine. Because no matter what people think of the dominant group of Detroit activists, loudmouths, organizers, etc. they are the ones who GOTV on Election Day.

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    "If you're reading this, and you're white, and have political ambitions in this city, you've got to get around to the entire city..."

    That wont be necessary for council seats after the new charter amendments kick in.

    I know a few white people who have tossed running for council around in front of me lately, and they all thought they wouldn't have a prayer before council-by-district turned into reality. Of course, they all want to run in the districts where Corktown and Midtown are [[a lot less work there).

    I'm already preparing for the nonsense.
    Last edited by detroitsgwenivere; August-08-11 at 04:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detroitsgwenivere View Post
    "If you're reading this, and you're white, and have political ambitions in this city, you've got to get around to the entire city..."

    That wont be necessary for council seats after the new charter amendments kick in.

    I know a few white people who have tossed running for council around in front of me lately, and they all thought they wouldn't have a prayer before council-by-district turned into reality. Of course, they all want to run in the districts where Corktown and Midtown are [[a lot less work there).

    I'm already preparing for the nonsense.
    Yes, I know. I am too.

    I've had those kinds of conversations with a few of my wonderful, idealistic buddies. If they think it's as simple as getting elected from Midtown or Corktown and not dealing with the rest of the city, they've got another think coming. A lot of them want to make the world a better place, but the folks in the Detroit political machine are professionals. Politics and activism are two different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melocoton View Post
    You never hear the question, "will Oakland County ever elect a black County Executive?" or "will Grosse Pointe have a black mayor?" I think Detroit electing a white mayor is more likely than either of those. Black voters have been voting for white candidates since blacks got the right to vote; it's white voters that historically have trouble voting for black candidates.
    That's because there's a higher percentage of white candidates on the election ballots as opposed to black candidates. Black people make up somewhere around 15% of the population, of course they're going to be more likely to vote for someone of the other race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjk View Post
    That's because there's a higher percentage of white candidates on the election ballots as opposed to black candidates. Black people make up somewhere around 15% of the population, of course they're going to be more likely to vote for someone of the other race.
    But you're overlooking the point that even while the City has been majority black, the residents have not had problems with voting for white candidates. Ficano received more votes out of Detroit than the black candidates in the democratic primary. Even while majority black, Ravitz, Eberhard, Cockrel, and Kelly all were voted in at large. Hell, Maryann Mahaffey served three terms as Council President during a time of the percentage of black residency was growing. And she would have been the first to tell you that she was getting voted in by black residents.

    Not to mention Tobocman, Tlaib, both Lelands, some Cavanaughs [[with Chris Cavanaugh winning among black Detroiters while losing among the white voters in the Pointes and Harper Woods, during a Dem primary, while living in the Pointes) and Hansen Clarke.

    Black Detroiters are as willing to vote for, who is perceived as good candidates, as much, if not moreso, as anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melocoton View Post
    You never hear the question, "will Oakland County ever elect a black County Executive?" or "will Grosse Pointe have a black mayor?" I think Detroit electing a white mayor is more likely than either of those. Black voters have been voting for white candidates since blacks got the right to vote; it's white voters that historically have trouble voting for black candidates.

    You are telling too much truth bruh...

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    Obama he's black & got the job.
    Quote Originally Posted by melocoton View Post
    you never hear the question, "will oakland county ever elect a black county executive?" or "will grosse pointe have a black mayor?" i think detroit electing a white mayor is more likely than either of those. Black voters have been voting for white candidates since blacks got the right to vote; it's white voters that historically have trouble voting for black candidates.

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