Have the politics in City Council shifted?

[MSUguy]

You act like this is some new phenom. When have Watson and Co. ever blocked anything? Since KK was first elected the city has day to day management of the Eastern Market, the Zoo, etc. Now in some instances things like Cobo didn't go through, but later passed after some negotiation. The Belle Isle deal is another example, there was an article in paper last week, how this will come back after the new year. The state met with some members and made some changes they wanted. The idea that council is full of 'screw the man' types is not born out by history. Yes, in case some these things required negotiation[[the horror), but they pass eventually. So I don't get the shock about council doing these things.

[corktownyuppie]

You like this some new phenom. When have Watson and Co. ever blocked anything? Since KK was first elected the city has day to day management of the Eastern Market, the Zoo, etc. Now in some instances things like Cobo didn't go through, but later passed after some negotiation. The Belle Isle deal is another example, there was an article in paper last week, how this will come back after the new year. The state met with some members and made some changes they wanted. The idea that council is full of 'screw the man' types is not born out by history.

Council is not full of these types, but they're definitely an influence. It's not the results they get to...it's how much teeth-pulling and foot-dragging you need to do to get there.

[Gistok]

You like this some new phenom. When have Watson and Co. ever blocked anything? Since KK was first elected the city has day to day management of the Eastern Market, the Zoo, etc. Now in some instances things like Cobo didn't go through, but later passed after some negotiation. The Belle Isle deal is another example, there was an article in paper last week, how this will come back after the new year. The state met with some members and made some changes they wanted. The idea that council is full of 'screw the man' types is not born out by history. Yes, in case some these things required negotiation[[the horror), but they pass eventually. So I don't get the shock about council doing these things.

Very perceptive MSUguy... there's some posters on this forum who haven't quite gotten up to speed that no matter what the faults of the current council, they much more adept at handling city issues than they were when Monica, Martha and Barbara Rose were around.... They seem to be fixated on non-issues such as Pugh making a workout video on his own time, rather than focus on any of the real issues.

But I guess that's the luxury of sitting behind a keyboard and saying anything you want... regardless of the facts...

[brizee]

Very perceptive MSUguy... there's some posters on this forum who haven't quite gotten up to speed that no matter what the faults of the current council, they much more adept at handling city issues than they were when Monica, Martha and Barbara Rose were around.... They seem to be fixated on non-issues such as Pugh making a workout video on his own time, rather than focus on any of the real issues.

But I guess that's the luxury of sitting behind a keyboard and saying anything you want... regardless of the facts...

I'm not the biggest fan of the city council[[or any of the shitty politicans we have to deal with in this state)

But it does seem like people are more interested in insulting them than actually critiquing their actual job.

Pugh is gay and does excercise videos. I think he's rude with dealing with the public, but I don't understand the absolute bile spewed at this guy on this board.

Watson is fat. It's always stated she wants a handout. Well does the state actually owe the city money? The state has been wishy-washy on that.

Kenyatta is the one I'm most confused about the hate for. He seems like he always has an at least logical reason for the views he expresses. Is it really because of his dress and name? I'd like to believe not.

[corktownyuppie]

Very perceptive MSUguy... there's some posters on this forum who haven't quite gotten up to speed that no matter what the faults of the current council, they much more adept at handling city issues than they were when Monica, Martha and Barbara Rose were around.... They seem to be fixated on non-issues such as Pugh making a workout video on his own time, rather than focus on any of the real issues.

But I guess that's the luxury of sitting behind a keyboard and saying anything you want... regardless of the facts...

Hey now, I couldn't care less about dumb exercise videos. And yes, I agree that the council is much more adept than when Monica, Martha, and BRC were around.

But that's the problem...is Monica/Martha/BRC really our basis for comparison? Talk about setting the bar low. We're in a financial emergency. We don't need a rubber stamp council, but we do need one that is accepting of the current reality and engaged in how to fix it.

When have Watson and Co. blocked anything? I'm not saying that they are. But they sure as hell are SLOWING EVERYTHING DOWN.

[Honky Tonk]

You act like this is some new phenom. Yes, in case some these things required negotiation[[the horror), but they pass eventually. So I don't get the shock about council doing these things.

And who knows? Maybe even Obama will drop off some bacon?