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    Quote Originally Posted by mwilbert View Post
    You must realize this is an absurd argument. Ann Arbor would look like Saline or something if the university weren't there. This is not to say that means that there isn't any burden on the town, but to the extent Ann Arbor is thriving, it is because of UM, not in spite of it. I listened to this nonsense in Cambridge MA regarding Harvard and MIT for decades. I'm immune.
    Its your arrogance that makes you immune. You have made up your mind and you can't possibly be wrong now can you?

    LOL all I said was the university takes more than it gives. A huge chunk of AA is under its non-table control. It is not like AA has an income tax and the sales tax goes to the state. Outside of the Univeristy, lots of people live in Ann Arbor that have no ties to the U, They live there why? Because it is attractive [[schools, safe, parks). Detroit's neighborhoods are not.

    That is why you must fix that to fix the sprawl issue. You [[everyone) likes to blame the burbs all the time for Detroit's woes. Well Detroit owns the water, and you need water to sprawl. This comes first, years before congested roads. So the City has some culpability in the sprawl. They are part of what created it. This is a draw for people. The city also pushes people out by not providing safe neighborhoods, adequate public safety, clean parks, and does not work well with the schools. These push people out of the city. This IS the reason why 300k at the last census! It wasn't sprawl! Sprawl did not expand hardly at all in the 2000 decade. We were fighting wars and recessions, both curb growth.

    So keep your head buried in the sand and wondering why the City continues to erode its tax base. This ain't rocket science. I am just glad that our new council is beholden to the neighborhoods, and we have a Mayor that gets this now.
    Last edited by DetroitPlanner; June-13-14 at 03:35 PM.

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