Everyone Should Be Happy! $1.3 Trillion Bill Passes

**aj3647** · April-04-18, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by oladub

1) What do trump's businesses sell?

Really dude? You don't know what he sells?
https://www.trump.com/merchandise/signature-collection/

https://www.ivankatrump.com/articles/category/style

Originally Posted by oladub

Trump certainly hasn't been good for his hotels.

Trump's DC Hotel made a massive profit in 2017, which was unexpected because most new luxury hotels don't turn a profit in their first few years of operation.

https://www.axios.com/the-dc-trump-h...74fda0396.html

Meanwhile after he was inaugurated, the membership fee at Mar-a-lago DOUBLED from 100K to 200K:

http://www.businessinsider.com/mar-a...-200000-2017-1

Certainly seems like people are willing to spend money at his properties in order to curry favor with the President.

Originally Posted by oladub

How much did he pay out of his own pocket to get elected. Do tell if he has made that back on his businesses.

Very good question and one that is also very easy to answer. He spent $66.1 million of his own money on his campaign, which represented 8.4% of his total campaign funding. A sizable investment, to be sure, but a profitable one. For starters, about $12 million of that was in loans, for which he can be paid back by his campaign. Another $10 million or so was funneled back into his own pocket by buying goods and services from his own properties [[golf courses, hotels, restaurants, rental space in Trump Tower, etc.). So at the end of the day, it's really closer to about $45 million.

Now, how much has his $45 million investment paid off? Well, just from the tax cut alone, he stands to save about $15 million per year in taxes. So his modest $45 million investment will pay for itself in just three years, after that, it's all profit. I'm not including extra profit he's making from things like Mar-a-lago and the DC Hotel from people looking to spend big money to curry favor or get close to the President.

As for Trump having a 50% approval rating, what polling agency did that poll? What prominent house effect are they known to have [[Democrat or Republican)? And does that number concur with literally every other approval rating poll taken at roughly the same time? I already know the answers to these questions, just curious if you do.

FYI, just a little civics lesson for you, the military CAN'T act in a law enforcement capacity on American soil. There's this little law called "Posse Comitatus", look it up. Sorry to burst your masturbatory bubble, but U.S. Army soldiers aren't going to be apprehending illegal immigrants on American soil at gunpoint. Best Trump can do is send the National Guard to provide "support functions" [[surveillance, logistics, transportation) to the Border Patrol, just like Bush and Obama both did.

**oladub** · April-04-18, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by aj3647

As for Trump having a 50% approval rating, what polling agency did that poll? What prominent house effect are they known to have [[Democrat or Republican)? And does that number concur with literally every other approval rating poll taken at roughly the same time? I already know the answers to these questions, just curious if you do.

FYI, just a little civics lesson for you, the military CAN'T act in a law enforcement capacity on American soil. There's this little law called "Posse Comitatus", look it up. Sorry to burst your masturbatory bubble, but U.S. Army soldiers aren't going to be apprehending illegal immigrants on American soil at gunpoint. Best Trump can do is send the National Guard to provide "support functions" [[surveillance, logistics, transportation) to the Border Patrol, just like Bush and Obama both did.

It was the Rasmussen polling agency and his rating has gone up another percent to 51% today. Rasmussen typically rates him higher than other polling companies but Rasmussen had Trump down to 39% approval last July. Rasmussen also tracked Obama. Trump has a higher rating than Obama at this point of their presidencies. Rasmussen predicted that Hillary would win 2% more of the popular vote and was correct. Why, which other poll to you prefer? What was its prediction?

I didn't claim that the military can "act in a law enforcement capacity on American soil". I wrote that "Trump plans to defend our borders with troops." There is a difference. I'm assuming you misread or chose to twist what I wrote.

Question: Since when can't our government provide for the common defense, define and punish thefts and felonies committed externally and offenses against the law of nations, make rules concerning captures on our borders and beyond, or call on the militia to execute the laws of the land and repel invasions?

Answer: since Obama.

Even states can go so far as to engage in war when invaded if there is no time for delay. To clarify, we are talking about a massive economic invasion rather than war but states can deal with border problems up to and including war until the feds arrive.

**aj3647** · April-04-18, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by oladub

It was the Rasmussen polling agency and his rating has gone up another percent to 51% today. Rasmussen typically rates him higher than other polling companies but Rasmussen had Trump down to 39% approval last July. Rasmussen also tracked Obama. Trump has a higher rating than Obama at this point of their presidencies. Rasmussen predicted that Hillary would win 2% more of the popular vote and was correct. Why, which other poll to you prefer? What was its prediction?

I prefer to look at aggregate polling data, rather than just cherry-picking the one poll out of a dozen that makes Trump look good, as you did.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6179.html

Even Trump-loving Fox News only has Trump at 45% approval.

**oladub** · April-04-18, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by aj3647

I prefer to look at aggregate polling data, rather than just cherry-picking the one poll out of a dozen that makes Trump look good, as you did.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6179.html

Even Trump-loving Fox News only has Trump at 45% approval.

Ah, yes, after you asked which poll I referred to and the answer kept getting worse, its time to dilute it. But even if you go to Real Clear Politic's combined polls, including those that are less recent and did much worse in 2016, Trump's rating has steadily crept up 4.5% since December.

**aj3647** · April-05-18, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by oladub

Ah, yes, after you asked which poll I referred to and the answer kept getting worse, its time to dilute it. But even if you go to Real Clear Politic's combined polls, including those that are less recent and did much worse in 2016, Trump's rating has steadily crept up 4.5% since December.

When you have the lowest approval rating in modern U.S. history, there's nowhere to go BUT up. Fact: No President since WWII has had first year approval ratings as low as Donald Trump. He is, quite literally, the least popular President in modern times.

RCP aggregate approval rating: 41.5% approve, 53.5% disapprove. Hey, do you think that might have something do with the fact that Democrats keep winning special elections in Trump country as of late? There was another one just two days ago, Democrats flipped a seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Liberal candidate Rebecca Dallet won by 12 percentage points over conservative Michael Screnock, who was heavily backed and funded by the NRA. Trump won Wisconsin in 2016.

But you're right oladub, Trump is super popular and is only getting more so. Hang your hat on that in the 2018 midterms. 215 days to go, I guess we'll find out in due course which one of us is correct.

**oladub** · April-05-18, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by aj3647

When you have the lowest approval rating in modern U.S. history, there's nowhere to go BUT up. Fact: No President since WWII has had first year approval ratings as low as Donald Trump. He is, quite literally, the least popular President in modern times.

RCP aggregate approval rating: 41.5% approve, 53.5% disapprove. Hey, do you think that might have something do with the fact that Democrats keep winning special elections in Trump country as of late? There was another one just two days ago, Democrats flipped a seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Liberal candidate Rebecca Dallet won by 12 percentage points over conservative Michael Screnock, who was heavily backed and funded by the NRA. Trump won Wisconsin in 2016.

But you're right oladub, Trump is super popular and is only getting more so. Hang your hat on that in the 2018 midterms. 215 days to go, I guess we'll find out in due course which one of us is correct.

Wrong, the Rasmussen poll I cited shows that Obama's polling numbers were 5% points below Trump's at the same point in Obama's presidency. Changing the topic to energized Democrats whose main campaign issue seems to be hating Trump and despising US workers showing up in recent elections does not make your failed point that "No President since WWII has had first year approval ratings as low as Donald Trump."