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    Quote Originally Posted by 1KielsonDrive View Post
    Don't count your chickens until they're hatched. Or, as The Curmudgeon would say, "Don't believe it until you've seen it and its been there for a few years".
    Well, with multiple sources saying that the office tower is being renovated with a governmental tenant in mind, there is little reason to believe that what is going on down there on a daily basis is not part of a renovation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esp1986 View Post
    Well, with multiple sources saying that the office tower is being renovated with a governmental tenant in mind, there is little reason to believe that what is going on down there on a daily basis is not part of a renovation.
    I'll stick with Skipper's Rule #1. Don't believe it until you've seen it and its been there for a few years. This a rule devised, in particular, for Detroit. There was extended work on the Statler for months, if not years. What happened to the Statler? I saw a couple of big time presentations for renovations to the Tuller. It was to become the Golden Harp Castle. What happened? It's gone. We could belabor this one. How do we know, other than rumours, there's a governmental tenant? How do we know, other than rumours, this is a renovation and not a stabilization? What did J.C.Beal say about it ? Considering it's Illitch's building, I wouldn't count on any type of renovations. He's not trustworthy. And he's certainly not a preservationist. I'm happy it's being stabilized. I'll be happier when it actually get's rebuilt, if it ever happens. Just so you don't get your heart broken - don't count on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1KielsonDrive View Post
    I'll stick with Skipper's Rule #1. Don't believe it until you've seen it and its been there for a few years. This a rule devised, in particular, for Detroit. There was extended work on the Statler for months, if not years. What happened to the Statler? I saw a couple of big time presentations for renovations to the Tuller. It was to become the Golden Harp Castle. What happened? It's gone. We could belabor this one. How do we know, other than rumours, there's a governmental tenant? How do we know, other than rumours, this is a renovation and not a stabilization? What did J.C.Beal say about it ? Considering it's Illitch's building, I wouldn't count on any type of renovations. He's not trustworthy. And he's certainly not a preservationist. I'm happy it's being stabilized. I'll be happier when it actually get's rebuilt, if it ever happens. Just so you don't get your heart broken - don't count on it.

    I only hold out hope now only because of that email I got and the footer reading "renovation" etc etc

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