7 Mile & Hayes Lunch Counter[[Vi & Gabe's)

[Brock7]

There was a gravel parking area right on the corner and a side entrance to the party store which we called Jessies. I don't know why, George and Sophie were the couple that operated the store from the early 60's to sometime in the 70's, maybe Jesse was a previous owner. The old lady who lived in the Salter house next door would often be parked on a stool passing the time of day with the couple.

Brock7
Maps from 1876 through 1915 show the 40 acres that are now bounded by State Fair, Seven Mile, Rex and Redmond as being owned by John Salter. They also show him owning the 40 acres between Hayes and Brock where Salter house on Seven Mile stood. For some reason the Detroit Common Council, rather than the land owners, ordered the land between Rex and Redmond to be platted in 1935 as the ASSESSOR'S PLAT OF JOHN SALTER ESTATE SUBDIVISION. The land between Hayes and Brock had been platted in 1925 as the EAST HAVEN SUBDIVISION and signed off on by Mary and Helena Young, and Casper and John L. Salter and their wives. It's interesting to note that all of the street names in the East Haven Sub, except for Maddelein and Seven Mile, are different than those shown in the plat for the John Salter Est. Sub which uses the current street names that we all grew up with. John L. Young is the name listed for the Salter house in 1928.
Quote:

"The oldest residence still in existence dating from this period is the old Salter House, located today at 15303 Seven Mile Road, near Morang. John Salter and his wife, Sophie Geller Salter, built the house sometime before 1880. Andrew and John Young’s mother, Helen A. Salter, was born there, and generations of the Young family were subsequently raised in it."

"The Salter Home Built in about 1870. Picture was taken around 1880. On the front porch, from left to right are Casper, Joseph, Mrs. John Salter [[Sophie Geller) holding John, Helena [[mother of Andrew Young), Casper, Mary, and John Salter [[son of Casper). The house still stands at 15303 Seven Mile Road, Detroit, MI. Picture taken from the book, Assumption Grotto Parish 150 years of Faith, 1832-1982 by Catherine Bicknell, Ph.D., Our Lady Press, Detroit, MI page 66"
Quoted from: http://ajlambert.com/anderson/str...dr.pdf [[change the three successive dots in the link to a single underscore) or use this link: http://tinyurl.com/KellyRd-PDF

EMG
My friend from the Salter family that I mentioned above has written to me providing more information on the Salter House discussed earlier in this thread. Also, I was correct about the Salters and Greiners being related. They were also related to the Youngs, for whom I imagine Young street, also in the area, was named. Here's some of what she told me:

"My grandfather was John Salter, son of Casper Salter. These are my father's relatives. This is the house I talked about that had a log cabin built under it. But it was torn down some time ago.

My mother's relatives [[the Greiners) lived at 6 Mile and Gratiot and helped build Grotto church. My great-great grandfather is buried at Grotto, in one of the first plots in the front of the cemetary. He was some kind of official for the area but I can't remember his title - something similar to Mayor of the area. Then my great-grandfather left the area and moved over to the west side of the state near Lake Michigan area [[Weare, Michigan near Hart, Michigan).

Also, the Youngs [[my paternal grandmother was a Young) owned all the property where St. Jude sits to this day. My father grew up on the St. Jude property where my grandparents' farmhouse sat. The house is still in good condition. It was moved a few blocks away. Also, the Morangs were cousins. Their house on Morang and Seven Mile Rd. is where my parents met at a party. The Salter farm was closer to Hayes. When they tore it down it was discovered to have a log cabin built under it originally. Both the Salter and Young farms were on the north side of Seven Mile. My sister attended St. Jude School from grades 1 through 8."

[kellyroad]

There was a gravel parking area right on the corner and a side entrance to the party store which we called Jessies. I don't know why, George and Sophie were the couple that operated the store from the early 60's to sometime in the 70's, maybe Jesse was a previous owner. The old lady who lived in the Salter house next door would often be parked on a stool passing the time of day with the couple.

Thanks for reposting that great research. As to the Rochelle St. question. Did the Salter house burn down in the 80s?

According to google maps it does look like the 7 Brock Party store is now a Tire Shop and there is a Beer/Wine/Lotto store just about where the Salter house was.
Is the building that housed Vetere Hardward still there? Could that be the Beer/Wine/Lotto store?

[Brock7]

I don't remember exactly when the Salter house was razed. The last areal photo that shows it is from October '81 the next areal view that exists is from May '97 and the house is no longer there. The Beer/Wine/Lotto store is definitely where the Salter house stood. I don't remember what was just east of the house. I remember Veteres as being more towards the middle of the block.

[Rochelle St.]

Thanks for the great pictures, Brock7.
Thats the house I remember.
Did it actually burn, or was it just razed? Not so sure of my memory now.
Also, does anyone know who Rochelle St. was named for?
where do you find out about this stuff?