Union gets jobs back for drunk and high workers caught on camera

[JVB]

It was a neutral arbitrator who reinstated them.

No union = no arbitrator to side with the union. The only reason there was an arbitrator is because that was part of the UAW contract. If they worked for a non-union company they could have just been fired as they should have been.

These guys getting their jobs back is a union victory - embrace it. Celebrate the effectiveness of unions! Aren't they great?

[Shollin]

No union = no arbitrator to side with the union. The only reason there was an arbitrator is because that was part of the UAW contract. If they worked for a non-union company they could have just been fired as they should have been.

These guys getting their jobs back is a union victory - embrace it. Celebrate the effectiveness of unions! Aren't they great?

So people should be fired without any chance to file a grievance? An independent arbitrator ruled there wasn't enough evidence to fire them. Embrace it.

[JVB]

So people should be fired without any chance to file a grievance? An independent arbitrator ruled there wasn't enough evidence to fire them. Embrace it.

They were caught on camera drinking and getting high at lunch and their faces were all over national news. The fact that they weren't found responsible says everything we need to say about unions.

When Right To Work passes, thank these guys, thank the arbitrator, but most of all thank the unions. They brought this shit on themselves by protecting fuck ups like these for all these years.

[Shollin]

They were caught on camera drinking and getting high at lunch and their faces were all over national news. The fact that they weren't found responsible says everything we need to say about unions.

When Right To Work passes, thank these guys, thank the arbitrator, but most of all thank the unions. They brought this shit on themselves by protecting fuck ups like these for all these years.

They were caught drinking but they couldn't prove what they were drinking. Again, it was an independent 3rd party arbitrator. Embrace it.

[Wesley Mouch]

These guys will certainly keep paying their dues.

I was involved from the management side on a case where some workers were being treated unfairly by management. The Union got them reinstated. Sometimes, justice is done.

If Unions want to be taken seriously in the future, they could lead and find a way to control substance abuse. As a general rule -- lip service is paid. No serious action is taken.

At least now, if members see this and disagree, they have choices without being compelled against their will to support corrupt unions.

Meanwhile, in other news... employers will continue to move operations wherever possible to places where they are allowed to manage their employees.

[JVB]

They were caught drinking but they couldn't prove what they were drinking. Again, it was an independent 3rd party arbitrator. Embrace it.

They actually videotaped them going in to liquor stores and buying alcohol, then followed them to the park, videotaped them drinking the alcohol they just purchased, and videotaped some of the guys smoking weed. Didn't you watch any of the videos?

Of course I suppose they could have emptied out the alcohol they just purchased onto the floorboards of the car and refilled the bottles with orange juice on the way to the park. And maybe they were actually smoking cigarettes and just acting like they were taking hits on the weed and passing the joints around.

Any reasonable person knows what they saw, and that's why unions are dying. People like you aren't helping their cause by pretending everything is kosher when shit like this happens.

[Shollin]

They actually videotaped them going in to liquor stores and buying alcohol, then followed them to the park, videotaped them drinking the alcohol they just purchased, and videotaped some of the guys smoking weed. Didn't you watch any of the videos?

Of course I suppose thye could have emptied out the alcohol they just purchased onto the floorboards of the car and refilled the bottles with orange juice on the way to the park. And maybe they were actually smoking cigarettes and just acting like they were taking hits no the weed and passing the joints around.

Any reasonable person knows what they saw, and that's why unions are dying. People like you aren't helping their cause by pretending everything is kosher when shit like this happens.

The bottles were in bags which is obviously alcohol but you can't prove what was in the bag. Again, a 3rd party neutral arbitrator ruled there wasn't enough evidence.

By the way, I did know someone who smoked cigarettes like they were joints.

[JVB]

The bottles were in bags which is obviously alcohol but you can't prove what was in the bag. Again, a 3rd party neutral arbitrator ruled there wasn't enough evidence.

By the way, I did know someone who smoked cigarettes like they were joints.

If I were a union worker I would be upset that these guys put me in danger by coming back from lunch impaired and operating dangerous machinery. The fact that the union got their jobs back would piss me off too because then it sends the message to others that they can get away with it too.