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    Despite the sort of controversey with respect to the library branch, I like what they have been doing on Gratiot lately. Wish they'd tear down Valente's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartock View Post
    Despite the sort of controversey with respect to the library branch, I like what they have been doing on Gratiot lately. Wish they'd tear down Valente's.
    Could you elaborate please?

    Because most of us know they don't build structures like the ones they're demolishing along Gratiot anymore, amongst the other avenues in Detroit, and if the city ever did come back, some of us would prefer if they were preserved so we can maintain some resemblance of a real city [[an urban fabric) instead of looking like another Atlanta or Houston with strip malls everywhere.

    BTW, I assuming the structures across the street will be next.
    Last edited by 313WX; November-28-11 at 09:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
    Could you elaborate please?

    Because most of us know they don't build structures like the ones they're demolishing along Gratiot anymore, amongst the other avenues in Detroit, and if the city ever did come back, some of us would prefer if they were preserved so we can maintain some resemblance of a real city [[an urban fabric) instead of looking like another Atlanta or Houston with strip malls everywhere
    You seem to get my point, though you disagree with it.

    Valente's is a burnt-out hulk of a place that can not be rehabbed. The Mark Twain branch from what I understand was magnet for crime and the urban exploration stuff, though I don't know whether it could have been salvaged.

    Many of those structures were nothing more than blight, and blight for a long time. If I were a parent living in one of those neighborhoods, I'd much rather have my kid walking past a parking lot or empty, leveled areas as opposed to some aesthetically depressing, structurally dangerous building harboring God knows what inside of it for the sake of some sort of preservation efforts by those who don't live in that same neighborhood, or to preserve some broken eyesore reminder of an urban fabric that no longer exists and won't exist for a long time, if ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartock View Post
    You seem to get my point, though you disagree with it.

    I'd much rather have my kid walking past a parking lot or empty, leveled areas as opposed to some aesthetically depressing, structurally dangerous building harboring God knows what inside of it for the sake of some sort of preservation efforts by those who don't live in that same neighborhood.
    Not that it will necessarily make a difference to you, but I know plenty of people "in the neighborhood" who wanted the Mark Twain Branch preserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HazenPingree View Post
    Not that it will necessarily make a difference to you, but I know plenty of people "in the neighborhood" who wanted the Mark Twain Branch preserved.
    It does make a difference. However, as you have attempted to quote me, my statements are being taken out of context. I said I wasn't sure if the Mark Twain was salvagable. I mentioned other structures with respect to the "preservation" comment as well, and I stated my opinion as to what I would do if I were a parent there. It has been suggested or stated that the Mark Twain situation was avoidable. Sounds like, at the very least, it could have been properly mothballed, and wasn't. There are plenty of other buildings in the relative nearby vicinity that are far more dangerous structurally and perhaps otherwise on Gratiot [[and Mack, for that matter). So perhaps Mark Twain was the exception to the general rule that if I were a parent in those neighborhoods that I would be glad some of those structures are coming down, even if there is nostalgia attached.

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