Pontiac the Next Royal Oak?

**313WX** · May-05-14, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by illwill

Wow!

Twenty-five years later and the S.E. Michigan mind-set STILL has not changed one bit. I use to hate seeing all of these little towns trying to out-compete each other to become the next Detroit. Detroit may be a dump now, the same as it was a dump 25 years ago but NO city/suburb in Michigan can remotely come close to Detroit on it's worst day. If R.O., Ferndale, B'Ham, Downriver, Pontiac etc... supported the REAL Metropolitan Downtown [[Detroit), we'd be a city on the scale of Chicago, New York, D.C or Philly today. Nothing has changed over the past 25 years. Detroit is still the enemy to the burbs and the end result is we still don't have a vibrant, bustling, thriving, booming big city in the State of Michigan. The S.E. Michigan region is screwed and by watching these videos, I don't think it'll ever thrive. I'm not blaming the burbs for wanting their cities to bustle but they have to understand that for the region to thrive, Detroit has to be the draw. S.E Michiganders don't understand this or either we SERIOUSLY want Detroit to fail and want nothing to do with the city at all.

This my friends is what has caused so many young people to move away.

People here I think are OK with living in a 2nd rate region that's stagnant/declining as long as they're not "bailing out Detroit" [[with "Detroit" being a euphemism for all of the negative aspects that consume much of the city). And if they want something different, Chicago is only a few hours away in a car ride.

The logic isn't the most sound, nor is it the most progressive, but to each their collective own.

**illwill** · May-05-14, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

People here I think are OK with living in a 2nd rate region that's stagnant/declining as long as they're not "bailing out Detroit" [[with "Detroit" being a euphemism for all of the negative aspects that consume much of the city). And if they want something different, Chicago is only a few hours away in a car ride.

The logic isn't the most sound, nor is it the most progressive, but to each his/her collective own.

Please note: I made a few adjustments.

**illwill** · May-05-14, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

People here I think are OK with living in a 2nd rate region that's stagnant/declining as long as they're not "bailing out Detroit" [[with "Detroit" being a euphemism for all of the negative aspects that consume much of the city). And if they want something different, Chicago is only a few hours away in a car ride.

The logic isn't the most sound, nor is it the most progressive, but to each his/her collective own.

And Toronto as well...

**nain rouge** · May-06-14, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by Bham1982

But it isn't really a problem that needs to be fixed. Poor people need somewhere to live too.

Yeah! That's right! Kick those stupid poor people while they're down!

Oh, you want a bus to get to work? Stupid poor person, go back to Pontiac!

Stuck renting from slumlords that could care less about rats and building codes? Oh, they won't let you own a house because they'd rather let it sit abandoned than hand it to the likes of you? Stupid poor person, go back to Pontiac!

Wait? What's that? There aren't enough houses left in Pontiac? You say you're looking at a cheap apartment near Birmingham?

OH GOD, NO! THE HUMANITY!

**Bham1982** · May-06-14, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by nain rouge

Yeah! That's right! Kick those stupid poor people while they're down!

Hilarious. What exactly is wrong with having places for working class residents? I thought evil Oakland County was only for evil yuppies.

You want to kick people out of their homes and replace them with d-bags and Buffalo Wild Wings, and turn Pontiac into a Royal Oak. I see nothing wrong with having working class areas that aren't filled with drunken idiots and poseurs.