Rick Snyder in Detroit

[DC48080]

Sure is pal, I can't wait until your wages are reset to reflect the new reality.

You see, while Union wages are higher, they raise the bar for everyone. Even you.

My "wages" are directly tied to my skills and my ability to produce. What are yours tied to, a contract that says you get paid even if you slack off and produce nothing of value to your employer?

Every man or woman should be compensated based on the value they provide to their employer. Period. Unions are outmoded in today's world. Let those who are fit to do the job do the job. Get rid of the dead weight.

[Stosh]

My "wages" are directly tied to my skills and my ability to produce. What are yours tied to, a contract that says you get paid even if you slack off and produce nothing of value to your employer?

Every man or woman should be compensated based on the value they provide to their employer. Period. Unions are outmoded in today's world. Let those who are fit to do the job do the job. Get rid of the dead weight.

Shows exactly how ignorant you are about the laws of supply and demand. You see, what an employer is willing to pay relates little to the value of an individual employee. It relates to the bottom line of his pocketbook. If he can find someone cheaper, your ass is gone. Period. And once wages start dropping across the board, your employer will find that there's a good reason to give you a lower wage scale, or to hire someone else that will work for less.

[DC48080]

Shows exactly how ignorant you are about the laws of supply and demand. You see, what an employer is willing to pay relates little to the value of an individual employee. It relates to the bottom line of his pocketbook. If he can find someone cheaper, your ass is gone. Period. And once wages start dropping across the board, your employer will find that there's a good reason to give you a lower wage scale, or to hire someone else that will work for less.

Your response shows the ignorant entitlement mentality that is so typical. You are only as good as what you can produce and until you can understand that you will never get anywhere.

Nobody owes you anything. Stand on your own two feet and prove that you have some value. Give somebody a reason to want to hire you.

[Stosh]

Your response shows the ignorant entitlement mentality that is so typical. You are only as good as what you can produce and until you can understand that you will never get anywhere.

Nobody owes you anything. Stand on your own two feet and prove that you have some value. Give somebody a reason to want to hire you.

What entitlement mentallity DC? I can show you statistics on how RTW drives down wages, but I'm not going to do your homework for you, slacker.

Ha Ha, I lied. Just Like Rick The Nerd Does.

[Mikeg]

What entitlement mentallity DC? I can show you statistics on how RTW drives down wages, but I'm not going to do your homework for you, slacker.

Ha Ha, I lied. Just Like Rick The Nerd Does.

Gee, non-sourced [[and therefore most likely cherry-picked) data and the best you can show is a $2.50 gap on top of a $20/hr AVERAGE wage rate. There must be an awful lot of $32/hr non-union jobs in those RTW states to offset all of those $8/hr jobs you keep warning us about!

Maybe you can find us some statistical analysis that includes a high positive correlation coefficient that would suggest that the higher average wage rate is most likely caused by "closed shop" laws and not some other reason, such as historically higher levels of manufacturing skilled trades jobs in those states as compared to the RTW states.

[Stosh]

Gee, non-sourced [[and therefore most likely cherry-picked) data and the best you can show is a $2.50 gap on top of a $20/hr AVERAGE wage rate. There must be an awful lot of $32/hr non-union jobs in those RTW states to offset all of those $8/hr jobs you keep warning us about!

Maybe you can find us some statistical analysis that includes a high positive correlation coefficient that would suggest that the higher average wage rate is most likely caused by "closed shop" laws and not some other reason, such as historically higher levels of manufacturing skilled trades jobs in those states as compared to the RTW states.

Here's another source, pal:

http://books.google.com/books?id=2Kx...parity&f=false

The Labor Relations Process

By William H. Holley, Kenneth M. Jennings, Roger S. Wolters

Maybe there's another correlation coefficient that would lead you to explain why most RTW states have mortgaged their future by offering insane tax breaks and perks to manufacturers just to locate in their fine states. Remember, these fools supposedly have some great advantage, so why would they have to do this to attract people to their backwater states?