If it's ONLY downtown, that means Gilbert is driving a wedge between the downtown area and the rest of the city. Why not just separate from Detroit and call it gilbertville?
Or -- "to hell with those N*rs"
I just don't understand how an American older than 12 can seriously ask questions like those.
Like not every single facet of life involves race...
But it colors most of the important ones.
This is so f'in absurd.
Dan Gilbert is a private investor who makes money by attracting businesses into his renovated properties in downtown Detroit. To attract tenants he needs to have his services be great. This project will help do that.
The city absolutely benefits by bringing more tax paying businesses into the city and creating a more robust downtown which will likely bring other corporations, restaurants, residents, other services, etc.
Are there tons of things Detroit can do to improve the neighborhoods? Yes - absolutely yes. But Gilbert is solely focused on downtown [[and surrounding areas) at the moment and is doing a wonderful job. Kudos to him.
Get mad at city government or projects that drain hundreds of millions of public money [[cough cough arena district), but this Gilbert hate is absurd. He's doing great things for the city.
By that logic, Scotty Simpson's is driving a wedge between the west side and downtown/east side by not having locations in those places. Why does that business hate people who live downtown - denying them their delicious fried fish? I can see them now, sweating over giant boiling vats of oil and delicious fish - saying "F&*k those motherf*#ers downtown, we're keeping our wonderful fish and chips to ourselves."
We need to end the disparity in excellent fried fish that the west side enjoys. I think federal grants are in order.
Before you get your outrage on, read the linked article.
Originally Posted by the link aboveConstruction is underway on the advanced fiber-optic Internet network that will serve residents, local government and businesses in and around downtown Detroit. Access then will be expanded to other areas of the city.
Matt Cullen, president and CEO of Rock Ventures, called the the new network "the generational leap forward" and leapfrogging where the city is at this point. It's starting in the downtown and hopefully spreading out to the neighborhoods. There is some interest along the riverfront.
The network originates west of downtown Detroit, and the initial scope covers the central business district from M-10 to the west, I-75 to the north, I-375 to the east, and the Detroit River to the south.
After initial installation in downtown Detroit, Rocket Fiber will expand services to residents and businesses in Midtown along the Woodward corridor.
The system will operate on hard-wired fiber-optic lines that will be connected to buildings. Users will connect devices in their homes or businesses by either an ethernet cable or Wi-Fi. An outdoor Wi-Fi offering also will be available, Rock Ventures said.
In a for-profit businesses that is basically selling a luxury service, often to the people who are providing other luxury services, that's about the best you can imagine in terms of inclusiveness.
Furthermore, arguing about the speed of the internet access that people have in this city is deckchairs on the titanic of our digital divide. Yes, there are huge swaths of the city being left behind as downtown/midtown progress; yes, internet access and technology in general is one substantial aspect of that. Addressing those problems is much more foundational than worring where the extra-high speed internet goes first.
If you look at the experiences in other cities, I think this is much more than just "extra-high speed internet." In places that got Google Fiber, residents get something like a 5mb connection for free, and then can pay for ridiculous speeds like 100mb or whatever. I don't know what the average speed is for cable in the region, but if fiber undercuts that, a substantial price reduction greatly increases access for residents.Before you get your outrage on, read the linked article.
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In a for-profit businesses that is basically selling a luxury service, often to the people who are providing other luxury services, that's about the best you can imagine in terms of inclusiveness.
Furthermore, arguing about the speed of the internet access that people have in this city is deckchairs on the titanic of our digital divide. Yes, there are huge swaths of the city being left behind as downtown/midtown progress; yes, internet access and technology in general is one substantial aspect of that. Addressing those problems is much more foundational than worring where the extra-high speed internet goes first.
There's not a ton of info in the announcement on Crain's about the long-term plan, but it sounds like they definitely intend to expand this to other parts of the city. Again, this could be a very big deal - for businesses downtown, for people in the neighborhoods, and for making Detroit a more attractive place to live relative to other cities in the US.
Having been a member of this forum since damn near its inception, again, I am appalled--- this time by the short sidedness and, dare I say ignorance of the above comment. This is a project in downtown/midtown and I presume extending to the New Center. And if someone crawls out of the hole they are barricaded in dating back to about [[mentally) 1968 and reads about similar projects in other cities similar projects are aimed at businesses and residential is dovetailed as a added benefit.
It continually becomes apparent that many contributors would rather see no progress on any front...reverting back to some strange comfort year prior to 1985 when the streets rolled up at 6pm and where even die hard hookers feared to go out on hoof. I worked in the heart of downtown throughout that period and it was no fun. Its no wonder many businesses fled to the suburbs. Even the dismal Van Dyke strip in Warren was preferred to Congress and Griswold.
Contributors to the renewal of downtown/midtown are also contributing to the vitality of the city of Detroit in general. If there can be no agreement on that point, its rather frightening. Negative criticism of every project and every sponsor is simply baffling.
And as I remember the article the project is to be rolled out first to where most commercial customers are located, i.e., downtown and Midtown, which last time I checked had very large establishments like Wayne State and all of the hospitals and medical facilities. As mentioned above, extend it next to New Center and around Henry Ford Hospital.Having been a member of this forum since damn near its inception, again, I am appalled--- this time by the short sidedness and, dare I say ignorance of the above comment. This is a project in downtown/midtown and I presume extending to the New Center. And if someone crawls out of the hole they are barricaded in dating back to about [[mentally) 1968 and reads about similar projects in other cities similar projects are aimed at businesses and residential is dovetailed as a added benefit.
It continually becomes apparent that many contributors would rather see no progress on any front...reverting back to some strange comfort year prior to 1985 when the streets rolled up at 6pm and where even die hard hookers feared to go out on hoof. I worked in the heart of downtown throughout that period and it was no fun. Its no wonder many businesses fled to the suburbs. Even the dismal Van Dyke strip in Warren was preferred to Congress and Griswold.
Contributors to the renewal of downtown/midtown are also contributing to the vitality of the city of Detroit in general. If there can be no agreement on that point, its rather frightening. Negative criticism of every project and every sponsor is simply baffling.
I have a general knowledge of LAN stuff [[the old T-1, T-3, etc.) and NIC [[Network Interface Cards) which was 10M, 100M, and later 1 gigabit, but 1 gigabit is usually commercial, not residential. I'm not aware of speeds greater than 100 MBPS for residential.
Doesn't the typical customer sitting at home almost always have less than 50 MBPS?
I have a 50 MBPS service at home.
[[hope I have my facts correct.)
Last edited by emu steve; February-23-15 at 06:21 AM.
So you want him to fund a high speed fiber optic internet network to the entire city of Detroit where 1/3 of the land is vacant and there's not any need for it? I'm pretty sure that this is for the business sector, not residential usage.
Although one does need to wonder how much increasingly shameful internet porn someone could download at those speeds.......
I was unaware that there were zero black people living downtown. Thanks for the info.
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