Anyone just catch the "investigation" on mcs on WXYZ?

[kraig]

Quit trying to dodge the issue of Summer in the City exposing [[exploiting?!) teen-aged volunteers for what? To help a billionaire? Anybody with half a brain knew there are environmental hazards in that building. Dan Stamper is lying in the report when he says they didn't know.

The idea of how these kids and their goodwill toward the city were exploited makes my blood boil. At the same time, I'm amazed that on a left-leaning forum like this, everybody's making excuses for "The Man."

Take the time to research Summer In The City. They performed cleanups in over a dozen sites this summer. They also conducted youth programs for a large number of Detroit Children. You're attacking a very productive organization.

[EastSider]

Take the time to research Summer In The City. They performed cleanups in over a dozen sites this summer. They also conducted youth programs for a large number of Detroit Children. You're attacking a very productive organization.

We've been over this issue not too long ago. Summer in the City may be a worthwhile group, but I draw the line at exploiting their volunteers for the service of a billionaire.

There's plenty of work to be done in Detroit without doing it for someone who can pay for it.

[Lonyo exit]

To quote from FlyByDon's link:

"Workers involved in demolition and removal of the debris from these disasters, should wear respiratory protection [[a NIOSH-approved respirator such as an N-95 or more protective respirator). It is essential that when these respirators are used, they are properly fit on the worker. Workers should wear the respirator while working inside established work zones."

But forget that, when simpletons like davewindsor insist on fellating Moroun rather than stand up for well-meaning kids who were taken advantage of. Carry on, puckerface. Don't choke on the old man. Nah, you're used to doing that so you probably won't.

When he's finishes up and you wipe off, maybe you can explain how cleaning an empty building but leaving it abandoned with no renovation plans whatsoever on the horizon makes Detroit a better place.

[davewindsor]

To quote from FlyByDon's link:

"Workers involved in demolition and removal of the debris from these disasters, should wear respiratory protection [[a NIOSH-approved respirator such as an N-95 or more protective respirator). It is essential that when these respirators are used, they are properly fit on the worker. Workers should wear the respirator while working inside established work zones."

But forget that, when simpletons like davewindsor insist on fellating Moroun rather than stand up for well-meaning kids who were taken advantage of. Carry on, puckerface. Don't choke on the old man. Nah, you're used to doing that so you probably won't.

When he's finishes up and you wipe off, maybe you can explain how cleaning an empty building but leaving it abandoned with no renovation plans whatsoever on the horizon makes Detroit a better place.

I never said I was a fan of Moroun. He's one of many useless land speculators playing monopoly with a lot of unused boarded up buildings, which I hate. But, I am a fan of the MCS and it's a package deal. The alternative to volunteers helping out was to sit idly by while the city railroaded through with it's demolition order and it would have been a parking lot by now.

I guess with your simple dinosaur pea brain you still can't understand that historic buildings won't and haven't been getting rehabbed by the private sector in Detroit without public assistance of some kind.. Whether it be NEZ, SEV, grants, lease commitments, public volunteering from Summer in the City, or other public assistance, the private sector is not going to save old buildings on their own like the MCS just like any other historic building in Detroit because there's no business case to do such a thing.

PS--you give a great description of sucking old men off. I guess you've learned all that from all your past experiences with sucking old men off. You probably had a boner while describing it.

[kraig]

We've been over this issue not too long ago. Summer in the City may be a worthwhile group, but I draw the line at exploiting their volunteers for the service of a billionaire.

There's plenty of work to be done in Detroit without doing it for someone who can pay for it.

They volunteered. They also appeared to enjoy themselves doing it. As far as other areas, do you have any suggestions?

Also, I failed to mention that Summer In The City does a very good job of making the volunteers aware of what it is they will be doing. There is too much foretelling of what you'll be doing to claim exploitation. Again, I say do your research on them.

[Lonyo exit]

While I understand [[and agree with) your opinion in this matter, I do take offense to calling these kids 'not terribly bright'. When any of us were those kids' ages, would we have given hazmat protection a thought? It was up to the adults in charge to make sure those kids were adequately protected. Dirty bastards.

Agreed. I must've been thinking of davewindsor when I called them that. They, unlike him, have shown on this board that they can string a coherent thought or two together and express them clearly.

[mcsdetroitfriend]

wow......can't believe we've reduced ourselves to sounding like children.

I wish gsgeorge would hop in on this as he was there for about an hour and saw what was going on. But then again so was I, but people tend to feel I'm "tainted" by 'those bastards'

Everyone who came in was ready and willing to go, yeah those in charge definitely should have made an effort to better protect the summer in the city kids, i definitely raised a stink about kids wearing shorts but was told by a summer in the city rep "we can't enforce that" 'then they shouldn't be in there' "nothing I can do"

Look at the facts, leave matty out of it, he had nothing to do with it, he was never there, his wife was, but all she did was supervise planting of flowers [[and apparently is a super nazi about it - i wasn't there that day), and came in to see how it looked on the last day.

[Alley]

wow......can't believe we've reduced ourselves to sounding like children.

I wish gsgeorge would hop in on this as he was there for about an hour and saw what was going on. But then again so was I, but people tend to feel I'm "tainted" by 'those bastards'

Everyone who came in was ready and willing to go, yeah those in charge definitely should have made an effort to better protect the summer in the city kids, i definitely raised a stink about kids wearing shorts but was told by a summer in the city rep "we can't enforce that" 'then they shouldn't be in there' "nothing I can do"

Look at the facts, leave matty out of it, he had nothing to do with it, he was never there, his wife was, but all she did was supervise planting of flowers [[and apparently is a super nazi about it - i wasn't there that day), and came in to see how it looked on the last day.

OF COURSE HE WASN'T THERE! You think he doesn't know the risks of breaking and shaking loose, and then breathing, all that toxic crap?
See if your defending Matty Moron changes when you come down with a nagging case of the Mesotheliomas!