Ontario nurses fleeing Canada for American jobs

**Satiricalivory** · August-14-22, 02:17 PM

Healthcare in the states is garbage. Compares horribly to any public healthcare system in the developed countries of the world.

**Seven&wyo** · August-14-22, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Satiricalivory

Healthcare in the states is garbage. Compares horribly to any public healthcare system in the developed countries of the world.

Yes like the health system in Italy that collapsed from the flew in 2018[[maybe 16) or the health system of Canada where nurses are under paid and people go months in need of a doctor. Yes we pay for medicine but the incentive to make a profit drives innovation in medicine. Also 80%-90% of all hospitalization in the US are lifestyle driven of that group over 75% are obese. If you want to stay out of the hospital here don’t be a fat fuck. You are completely wrong about this

**Satiricalivory** · August-14-22, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Seven&wyo

Yes like the health system in Italy that collapsed from the flew in 2018[[maybe 16) or the health system of Canada where nurses are under paid and people go months in need of a doctor. Yes we pay for medicine but the incentive to make a profit drives innovation in medicine. Also 80%-90% of all hospitalization in the US are lifestyle driven of that group over 75% are obese. If you want to stay out of the hospital here don’t be a fat fuck. You are completely wrong about this

This is bootlicker drivel. Paying the highest costs for healthcare in the world doesn't drive innovation at all, it only lines the pockets of greedy CEOs and billionaires. We have the worst and most expensive healthcare of any western country by far, it's franky embarrassing.

**Seven&wyo** · August-15-22, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by Satiricalivory

This is bootlicker drivel. Paying the highest costs for healthcare in the world doesn't drive innovation at all, it only lines the pockets of greedy CEOs and billionaires. We have the worst and most expensive healthcare of any western country by far, it's franky embarrassing.

Profit doesn’t drive innovation at all? You think finding a cure to a sickness or finding a way to make it more excessable to more people isn’t a drive for profit? I think I smell an angry Bernie voter

**Wheels** · August-15-22, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by Satiricalivory

Healthcare in the states is garbage. Compares horribly to any public healthcare system in the developed countries of the world.

Ya I guess that’s why nurses are leaving the powerful socialist system in Canadian and coming to our woeful system in the States right genius?

**Satiricalivory** · August-15-22, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Wheels

Ya I guess that’s why nurses are leaving the powerful socialist system in Canadian and coming to our woeful system in the States right genius?

Oh yeah we're so much better hurr durrh. And I guess that's why people go bankrupt or just fucking die because they don't have healthcare in the United States, and that's why our life expectancy is lower than Canada too.

You're really smart.

**Seven&wyo** · August-15-22, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Satiricalivory

Oh yeah we're so much better hurr durrh. And I guess that's why people go bankrupt or just fucking die because they don't have healthcare in the United States, and that's why our life expectancy is lower than Canada too.

You're really smart.

Hey dude if you want to make a point statistics and facts could help. How many of those bankruptcies were from preventable diseases? How many actually die? Why is life expectancy lower here than Canada? Time to do some thinking buddy

**southen** · August-15-22, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Seven&wyo

Hey dude if you want to make a point statistics and facts could help. How many of those bankruptcies were from preventable diseases? How many actually die? Why is life expectancy lower here than Canada? Time to do some thinking buddy

Facts like your father being 75 and being in perfect health therefore it is just out of shape people that have issues? Facts like the "vast VAST" majority of Type 2 diabetics not having any self control? Facts like that? Apparently being a jackass making wild assumptions about huge swaths of the population is now a "fact."

**Seven&wyo** · August-15-22, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by southen

Facts like your father being 75 and being in perfect health therefore it is just out of shape people that have issues? Facts like the "vast VAST" majority of Type 2 diabetics not having any self control? Facts like that? Apparently being a jackass making wild assumptions about huge swaths of the population is now a "fact."

Yes, in order to get type 2 diabetes you must glutton yourself, in order to glutton yourself you lack self control and any excuse that people have used is bullshit. Try thinking for once. Again I’m sorry your feelings are so easily hurt

**southen** · August-15-22, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Seven&wyo

Yes, in order to get type 2 diabetes you must glutton yourself, in order to glutton yourself you lack self control and any excuse that people have used is bullshit. Try thinking for once. Again I’m sorry your feelings are so easily hurt

Oh just all gluttons eh. Must not have seen the links between diabetes and poverty. People who have little to no healthy food options and live in food desserts, but hey, they're just fat and lazy. And before you question the "facts" all info regarding that is from the American Diabetes Association. Almost as trusted as daddy I suppose when it comes to health information. Daddy must not have taught you empathy or the definition of what a "fact" is.

**Zacha341** · August-15-22, 01:11 PM

I disagree. Depends on the care and situation. I had a surgery years ago based on techniques co-developed in Mexico. Went great. Then there are problems that can occur. IMO, the US remains top-notch in trauma care [putting you back together after a car accident for example].

It can even be argued that we lead in Trauma due to our culture which is research motivated re. that form of care, etc. Other countries not as much in some cases. Especially poorer nations.

Additionally, health care for the middle-class, though expensive is still accessible as we yet have a middle-class [last I checked] demanding and paying [via their premiums] for such offered. Looking at some countries we have medicine 'practiced' from the extremes of the haves vs. have nots - with very little in between. I have family in and from the Caribbeans and they kiss-the-ground of US re. our health care as too often unless you're very well off financially care is unapologetically bad, if even available.

I had a friend seriously injured in Italy, requiring highly skilled trauma care for a back injury. He was basically deposited at a local hospital engaged in that case, medieval options that his doctor locally per a phone call discouraged. Though in severe pain [and barey mobile] he got on the first plane heading home. Once arriving doctors confirmed that the procedures offered would have rendered him in far worse shape.

Originally Posted by Satiricalivory

Healthcare in the states is garbage. Compares horribly to any public healthcare system in the developed countries of the world.