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    ^ can I borrow it sense the taxpayers pay people to buy it,they should be considered public property lol
    Hybrid And Electric Vehicle Tax Benefits In California


    California residents can save big on the purchase of a new Chevrolet Volt or Bolt EV by combining a federal tax credit up to $3,750 with a state of California rebate of up to $2,500 on Bolt EV or $1,500 on Volt.

    Are they that bad that they have to pay people $6200 to buy it ?

    The federal incentives alone are up to $7500.

    Now EV owners are right up there with the greedy banks,business owners and everybody else that has to be taxpayer subsidized in order to buy a car.

    I am just busting chops but not really,why should taxpayers have to subsidize EV owners who never pay gas tax to drive on the roads that everybody else has to pay for.

    Its like driving a section 8 car

    That is the issue people have against all of this,if you want a EV fine,buy one out if your pocket and not mine,no government has ever paid my way to buy a car,the question is,are costs coming down or are the taxpayer incentives increasing .

    The Detroit 3 automakers said the aggressive EV sales goals can only be met with billions of dollars in government incentives including consumer subsidies, EV charging networks as well as "investments in R&D, and incentives to expand the electric vehicle manufacturing and supply chains in the United States."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...ort/ar-AAMXPOU

    That is the people that build the cars,telling you that they do not make economical sense to produce.

    So not only asking the taxpayer to pay the EV owners way,they are also asking for billions for R/D , pay for the infrastructure and charging stations but also pay for manufacturing and building supply stations.

    So EVs have now become a symbol of a socialist society that requires the taxpayers to fund private enterprise for a product ,that they will then sell for a profit,that they will not pay back those who funded it in the first place.

    At least with a Bolt if it is cold out,one can warm their hands as it burns to the ground.

    LG cannot build a refrigerator that lasts a week,but we as taxpayers have to pay them to build a battery,to put in a car,that we the taxpayers have to pay the company to build in the first place,so they can sell it to the public,that we the taxpayer have to pay in order for them to buy it,then we the taxpayers have to pay to throw up charging stations ,so they can charge up the battery in said car.

    My drug days are long gone,but I want some of what they are smoking.

    I need new tires,can I get me some section 8 tires?

    I can imagine Henry Ford is rolling around in his grave about now,wasting all his time and resources,personal innovation and building a company from the ground up.

    All he had to do was tell the world they were all going to die from climate change,but he could save them with his newfangled Model A,all he needed from the government and taxpayers was 400 billion dollars.

    It should be the same as always,if the auto makers cannot build a product that does not carry its own weight it should be dropped from the line up,and not go to the taxpayers to pay the losses.

    Unless of course I can receive some stock certificates in exchange for my investment in the companies.

    Outside of that ,all we have done is Nationalize private enterprise.

    Ayn Rand nailed it.

    At least with the Pinto somebody had to slam into the back for them to catch on fire,now we have EVs just spontaneously combusting,what happens if a woman is in the car and their child is strapped in the back seat in a car seat and the car burst into flames?

    A blind man could have seen sticking anything LG into a car is a recipe for disaster from 1000 miles away.

    These cars are being tested on the public in public streets and are dangerous because even the manufacturers do not know what will happen to them at any given time.

    Now I actually feel bad for EV owners,they have to rely on section 8 in order to buy a vehicle,it would probably save the taxpayers billions if we set up a go-fund-me so they could buy a bus pass.

    We could take that same 400 billion and invest it in our cities that need it the most and make a better life for millions for generations to come that actually provides a positive return to the taxpayers,all they are doing now is creating more taxes for an overtaxed population that sees no light at the end of the tunnel.

    Can people with block heaters plug those vehicles into those charging stations on a cold day? It would be only right sense they are being asked to pay for them.

    I am glad at least GM is doing this on US soil and providing local employment for the moment,but we all know just as soon as the government hints at dropping incentives,they will be moving offshore under the guise that they cannot produce EVs economically in the states,they are already saying that.


    Last edited by Richard; October-15-21 at 12:23 AM.

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