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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Let's explain this so that even a 5th grader can understand it.

    The shenanigans by Republicans could cause problems [[since all the court challenges have pretty much all been thrown out)... so state legislatures could cause problems.... However...

    1) the background electoral map in that video is flawed to begin with, Biden has 306 votes [[almost all certified) and not the much lesser amount shown in that map.

    2) if Pennsylvania and either Georgia OR Michigan legislature intervened... that would drop Biden's guaranteed Electoral votes down to 270 [[306-20-16 = 270). Biden only needs 270 to win... so it would require shenanigans in a 3rd state, and the likelihood of that are far more remote than it happening in just 1 or 2 states.

    3) Michigan legislative leaders have already told Trump in last weeks visit to the White House that the WILL OF THE PEOPLE is who decides Michigan... and those votes are already certified. So Michigan is a done deal [[unless a court challenge was successful).

    4) Georgia's Governor and Secretary of State [[both Republicans) have already been thrown under the bus by Trump and his minions [[as well as the 2 Republican senate candidates). So it would be likely that any Georgia legislative challenge to the vote outcome would likely be vetoed by the Governor there.

    5) the same for Pennsylvania... any legislative involvement to overturn the vote count, would be vetoed by the Democratic Governor there.
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    So maybe you should stop salivating at the prospects of an overturn of the will of the people SammyS... but that Youtube video just shows an unlikely scenario... but the media is looking at the possibility at some of the sleaziest possibilities to overturn the election by Trump et al. Thank God we are not a Banana Republic, despite attempts by some to turn us in that direction.
    Okay 5 th grader

    Governors cannot veto the legislature as you wrote

    Now in this extreme scenario, could a Democratic Governor [[as Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have) veto a legislative gambit to appoint electors? That’s a murky question. If the electors are appointed by joint legislative resolution, typically governors have no power to veto such measures, and in addition, governors in North Carolina and Wisconsin have limited veto powers. Suffice it to say that any legislature moving in this direction would trigger a state, and then federal, court battle, with the whole conflict likely winding up in the U.S. Supreme Court.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...-election.html


    Candace Owens posts on Facebook

    “Joe Biden is literally and legally not the President-elect. So why is the media pretending he is?”

    Fact checker Policifact flagged it as False information

    She sued and the fact checkers had to remove the rating and notify everybody that shared it that they were spreading false information.

    https://conservativefighters.org/news/candace-owens-challenges-fact-checker-and-wins/


    Even your fact checkers are biased.

    Gistok if you are going to make the claim of the current administration throwing things against the wall to see what sticks you clearly have been sleeping for the last four years.

    That is all that you guys have done.

    This whole voting thing,people have spent decades fighting for that right,it has even cost the lives of many in the process,we owe it to them and future generations to question and remain constantly vigilant in regards to that system.

    What is interesting is the amount of people in this country that are so quick to throw that under the rug with zero investigative results,simply because they hate the other candidate.

    That is people being self centered and putting their personal feelings over the system,people have a right to vote and people also have a constitutional right to question the security of that process.

    So how does one exactly sit there and demand their voice and vote be counted while in the same breath trying to deny others of their rights?

    Not only trying to deny them of their rights but in the process sit there and call them names and try to act like they are inferior to you because you do not agree with them.

    We might as well go back to the days when the democrats killed 150 African Americans in one voting center in order to prevent them from voting.

    Not much has changed with,I am entitled to my rights and I will do everything in my power to make sure you are not.

    IMHO if someone has an issue with somebody practicing their constitutional rights,they are the problem because they are saying they will determine who gets what rights.

    Not much has changed in the last couple hundred of years,and we are acting like a banana republic [[racist comment) when the media announced the winner of the presidential election on election night before even the results were in.

    And the media is dictating what people should think and say.

    If the media prints “Breaking news “ Gistok becomes governor of Michigan overnight.

    How much you wanna bet 95% will believe it and be calling others names for disagreeing in the process,it will not matter if it is true or not,that seed has been planted and they will spend the next 3 weeks talking about what a wonderful governor you are and their followers will not even question weather or not you were even elected in the first place,16 media outlets said you were,so it must be true.

    In many ways we became a banana republic years ago,most just do not realize it yet because their sphere is small.

    We just went through something that has never been implemented on that scale in the history of the world when it comes to mail in ballots and you guys are expecting everybody to take it at face value? I want what you guys are smoking.

    How Canada call pull off an election without being dependent on mail in ballots ?

    Even in banana republics people will walk 5 miles barefoot to place their vote knowing full well it will not matter,but they do it.

    We got first world problems hiding in the basement when it comes time for doing one of the most important things in one’s lifetime,of course it helps when you tell everybody,go outside and you die.

    Thats some real banana republic crap right there,because Americans in the past did die practicing their right to vote and they knew full well of that risk,but they still did it,stood in line and died because they knew it was worth it.

    We might as well sign up for Amazon prime voting and order our representatives online.

    It does not matter what city it is in,the day we stop questioning the process and staying vigilant is the day we lost our right to vote.

    It is not overturning the will of the people if somebody used the systems to manipulate their will,that is why there is a process in place.

    “Another statistical red flag can be observed in Michigan where even the very limited remaining public data reveals 643 precincts with voter turn-out above 80%, according to county records.”
    “The fact that we observed raw vote data coming
    directly from the Dominion data feed that includes decimal places proves that the winner was selected by an algorithm, and not individual voter’s choice.”




    City of North Muskegon had a voter turn out of 781.91%

    How does that even happen?

    Russell James Ramsland, Jr.-MBA from Harvard University -Political science degree from Duke University. -worked with NASA and MIT-works at ASOG [[professionals from Department of Defense, Secret Service, Department ofHomeland Security, and CIA)

    What was that you guys have been saying for the last six months ?

    listen to the experts - the experts are speaking but you are not listening.
    Last edited by Richard; November-29-20 at 02:24 AM.

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