Quote Originally Posted by DeLemur View Post
I understood what you were trying to equate, but please explain how an Obama policy caused exploding student debt and what is nationalizing student debt?
-Nationalizing businesses almost defines socialism. The Constitution does not "delegate" nationalizing most student debt although there in no reasons states can't do it. Obama must not have realized that behavior that is subsidized encourages more such behavior. Democrats, in general, do not acknowledge supply/demand. In short. Obama's changes to student loans not only drove up the demand for loans, it discouraged repayment and drove up tuition costs.

Quote Originally Posted by DeLemur View Post
You seem to forget, we're still fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. Trump visited troops the other day. He is continuing the wars. But the one place, where Russia can play advantage and the westernized Kurds can get slaughtered - Syria, yeah he left there without winning anything from Turkey/Erdogen.
-When Trump tried to set a timetable for bringing our occupying troops home from Syria all Dem presidential candidates except Gabbard opposed that initiative or were silent. They sided with Republican neocons. Trump did propose removing 5,000 troops from Afghanistan. Republicans and most Democrats opposed Trump. However, my point was that Trump had not started any new wars as had his two predecessors. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. If you think that Obama's killing of hundreds of thousands of Arabs with unconstitutional executive wars he started in is less of a "character fault" than what Trump was penalized for, we have a disagreement. I would have preferred that Nixon has ended Johnson's Vietnam War sooner but Johnson started it and Nixon ended it. Obama got us into the Syria, Libya, and Ukraine messes and now Democrats are trying to get us to stay in Syria.

We provided Kurds with weapons to take back territory ISIS took with weapons we provided ISIS' allies. The Kurds took their land back. Mission accomplished. We have no treaty with the Kurds. Our treaty is with Turkey a NATO ally. We only had 50-150 troops in the 15 mile wide border. That's something like 1 troop/40 square miles. Trump was right to pull them back. That land belongs to Syria which never permitted or encouraged the U.S. to occupy it. Once Turkey invaded Syria, Syria moved its troops north to reoccupy some of that border area. That's between Syria and Turkey. It is not our affair. Widespread "genocide" predicted by Democrats and neocons did not occur.

Quote Originally Posted by DeLemur View Post
Trump's scam University is about him being a fraudulent person, someone who can not be trusted to do anything but feed their own ego and pockets. That is what you see from him. He is a habitual liar. His lies have been documented and are beyond the normal level of deceit from Presidents.
You don't put that type of person in the Oval Office or you get results like being Russia's lapdog. I mean Trump is breaking up NATO and the Western alliance himself - this is Vladimir Putin's prime objective and he's doing it for him. That is a serious result.
-Again, I view the financial burdens Obama imposed on students to be statistically hundreds of times more serious than Trump's school. I measure damage. You measure "character".

"Putin's lapdog"? Are you channelling Joe McCarthy? Obama's screw-ups in Syria and Ukraine opened the doors in both places for Putin to bring in his military.

Quote Originally Posted by DeLemur View Post
Or giving multi-millionaires another tax cut when they don't need it, that is a serious result. So what do you do, if companies can outsource good jobs? I know what you don't do. You don't give the millionaire executives in those companies more tax cuts that they don't need.
I'm for raising taxes and cutting spending enough to cover more than our trillion dollar a year deficit using the formula proposed by the Simpson-Bowles Committee. Which Democrats support doing the same? I advocate import taxes which hurt the rich and benefit American labor. Going back to Woodrow Wilson's income tax of up to 6% on the rich, it was introduced in a Democratic bill to cut import taxes so the rich had to pay a small income tax in return for being able to profit from cheaper overseas foreign labor. It was a trade off. Eventually, middle class Americans had to pay most of the income taxes. The middle class, not the 1%, were the ultimate victims of Wilson's income tax. Warren's unconstitutional 2% wealth tax will no doubt also spread to the middle class when it fails to pay for all her plans just like Wilson's income tax on the rich. I love how the Trump tax cut reduced deductions for the rich in wealthy states so those of us in flyover country don't have to subsidize rich people in CA, Long Island, and CT. Democrats, of course, are fighting to resume those tax deductions for the rich.