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    Quote Originally Posted by archfan View Post
    I agree with you. It would be nice if Congress and the executive branch could agree on that.
    It appears that it is more profitable not to solve the situation.

    DACA was set to expire with no renewal.

    Current President offers 1.8 million DACA with a path but they had to go to the end of the line.

    In exchange for building a wall that is needed to secure the border.

    He really should not have had to offer anything,it was not required,what is required is it is the federal governments responsibility to secure our borders.

    He did a compromise that was not exceptable to others,his moment of weakness.He can just transfer the federal funds that is transferred to the cities and states use to offset the costs of illegal immigration.

    The previous president used cutting off federal HUD funds to cities that did not implement the mixed neighborhoods initiative,nobody had an issue with that so it is a plausible method.

    If a drug gang comes across the border and shoots up a shopping mall guaranteed the cry would be to build a wall,but most of the population that does not live in high immigration states are not really effected by what is going on,outside of paying for it,so they do not see a need to change something that does not effect them,until it does.

    The driving down of the wages only really effects the African American community and the poorest,so that part does not matter and it gives the politicians a look of being the savior when they offer $15 per hour and save the day.
    Last edited by Richard; August-07-19 at 03:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    It appears that it is more profitable not to solve the situation.
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    I think some folks find it more politically profitable to have a bad hombre to point to, than to solve the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
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    He did a compromise that was not exceptable to others,his moment of weakness.
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    It takes a really poor negotiator to not get a bill through when you control both houses of Congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archfan View Post
    I think some folks find it more politically profitable to have a bad hombre to point to, than to solve the problem.



    It takes a really poor negotiator to not get a bill through when you control both houses of Congress.
    So go buy a dozen roses for MS13 and give them a big kiss while you are handing them over,let us know how it worked out,not that you will be able to.

    Anybody with a thimble full of common sense knew exactly who he was referring to,but it is abundantly made clear on an hourly basis that common sense no longer exists for some.

    Being a poor negotiator has noting to do with it,every politician for the last 50 years,Democrats and Republicans has the exact same speech in thier campaign,verbatim.

    It is on u tube going all the way back to Kennedy.

    You are lying to yourself if you can honestly say he has not tried to do everything in his power outside of dictatorship in order to secure the border.

    But the left would have you believe that the United States President is the almighty one power in control of everything.

    How about past president Obama,all of his skills and popularity,what exactly did he accomplish?

    Started out by throwing everybody in the streets so they could land cushy jobs with big banks,handles international diplomacy with bags of your cash,kicks the can down the road with DACA by offering false hope,or maybe it was already planned to have Hillary as his replacement and she would have been the nice lady and kicked the can further down the road.

    He was a hero of hope and change,no hope and no change and millions left by the wayside sleeping in the streets.

    And Your offend by the words of Bad Hombre?

    It does not matter anyways,nobody wants a secure border or a solution to immigration,not the politicians nor the citizens that are forced to pay for it.

    It just looks Kinda funny when people whine about homelessness,healthcare,skills training,infrastructure,mass transit,rebuilding inner cities and on and on when they do not have a problem spending billions to care for everybody but thier own fellow Americans.

    Thats why they will never pass a healthcare for all scheme,we like to spend money on things that make us feel good verses spending money on things that makes us better.

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    Of course the 'undocumented' should be required to have a drivers license and insurance.

    The only reason this is controversial is that we use state driver's licenses as a proxy for legal status. The real debate is whether we should document the undocumented.

    Unconsidered here is the effect on the term 'undocumented immigrant'. If an irregular immigrant is given a document, a new term will have to be created. I proposed 'driving alien'.

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