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    Quote Originally Posted by bust View Post
    Mine is Susan Collins. For her integrity, and for votes like these:
    Susan Collins voted for the beyond-idiotic tax changes and has refused to criticize Trump. She's garbage.

    I get that she had been a consistent, moderate, collaborative voice of reason but when you hitch your fortunes to a Russian agent in the White House, you lose all respect. History will judge her as one who enabled Trump.

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    We all have enabled Trump by our past actions,some just like to blame others.

    History will ask,what was all of the fuss about,jobs were being added,the economy was moving forward,which is what the adverage person cares about,why were all of these people wasting so much energy to undermine all of that?

    But as we are finding out across the country,it’s the water.

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    Lots of interesting stuff going on with the various civil suits against Trump.

    Trump will submit written answers "under oath" in the Summer Zervos civil suit:
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1LP0Q4

    Trump's legal team admits the Stormy Daniels Non-Disclosure Agreement is non-binding and will stop trying to enforce it:
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=57697574

    Michael Cohen's attorneys have also conceded that the Stormy Daniels' NDA is non-binding and unenforceable.
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/07/polit...eal/index.html

    This appears to be an attempt to insulate Donald Trump from being deposed under oath in the Daniels' case, as they are essentially saying "you were right, we give up." Trump's lawyers are so afraid of what will happen if Donald Trump gets deposed under oath that they are conceding total victory to Daniels, although Michael Avenatti has pledged to continue the lawsuit.

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    Not as sexy as the minutia of aj's coup but at least Trump's economy puts food on the table-

    “Blue-collar jobs are growing at their fastest rate in more than 30 years, helping fuel a hiring boom in many small towns and rural areas that are strong supporters of President Trump ahead of November’s mid-term elections,”“Under Trump, the jobs boom has finally reached blue-collar workers". -Washington Post

    "There’s no doubt that this is the best economy in quite a long time for American workers, who by a wide range of measures can find a job more easily than they have in a decade …
    But the fact that higher pay raises are finally showing up in the data is another piece of evidence that employers are coming up against the limits of the labor force. Just maybe, after years of trying every recruitment technique other than raising hourly pay, employers are starting to turn more to that option." NY Times

    https://www.breitbart.com/2018-elect...e-collar-jobs/

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    Not as sexy as the minutia of aj's coup but at least Trump's economy puts food on the table-

    Putting aside the idiotic link to lying Russian troll Breitbart, we had the exact same economy under Obama, and that was allegedly a "disaster" per Dotard.

    And economic numbers have zero to do with whether or not the President is a criminal, idiot, liar, racist, jerk and in cahoots with Russia. Donny can crow about the allegedly now-"fabulous" economy from a prison cell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bham1982 View Post

    Putting aside the idiotic link to lying Russian troll Breitbart, we had the exact same economy under Obama, and that was allegedly a "disaster" per Dotard.

    And economic numbers have zero to do with whether or not the President is a criminal, idiot, liar, racist, jerk and in cahoots with Russia. Donny can crow about the allegedly now-"fabulous" economy from a prison cell.
    Bham, Those were quotes from the Washington Post and NY Times as reported by Breitbart. Are you saying Breitbart misreported them or that Breitbart isn't on you approved list? When you don't agree with something the NY Times or WaPo write, well then blame it on the messenger.

    The same economy under Obama? Ha, ha. We haven't even paid off the $10 trillion of debt Obama incurred to produce the most laconic recovery since WWII not that all recessions don't end anyway as proved by President Harding. Paying off that $10T [[$120,000 per average US family) is part of the Obama's economy too. Loved those banker bailouts Senator Obama voted for. I didn't remember that Black, Hispanic, women's and entry level workers had such high employment and near record level employment under Obama. Thanks for the reminder.

    Funny, but I always considered Obama's identity politics as racist. I could point out a couple of significant whoppers Obama told too regarding doctors, numbers, and ending the Iraq war. And what about all those heartfelt contributions Russian oligarchs contributed to the Clinton Family Fund before they were blessed with uranium concessions by Hillary's State Department?

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    ^ they lost me as soon as they called him the most powerful man in the world,he may hold the highest position of office in this republic but he is still bound by laws and does not run the country like a dictator,there is actually little that he can really do without the approval of a bunch of others.

    My little sister is considered a mental health expert,she is just as wacko as as anybody else,expert is subjective and opioniated.

    I still get a kick out of people freaking out saying he is the end of the world as we know it,they did look like grown ups to me anyways.

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    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...28966595616768

    praising himself, bashing the mayor of puerto rico and not once mentioning the almost 3,000 lives lost.
    Last edited by Maof; September-12-18 at 07:26 PM.

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    She needs to be bashed,ask her for a copy of the emergency action plan,bet she cannot provide one.

    But that is the way it is,do not do your job and when everything goes wrong loudly blame others.

    People have been leaving the island for years and leaving thier elderly parents behind and exposed. Trumps fault gotcha.

    Island is one hundred miles long the power plant was built in the south for the oil industry so the transmission lines had to be run to the population center over the mountains in the north. That was Trumps fault gotcha

    The power company because of fraud and the right to free electric was in bankruptcy and no preventive maintenance was done in the last 17 years.

    Do not pay for electric the company cannot pay thier bills or employees,it is the way it is but it is Trumps fault gotcha

    Months before the storm the governor required trucks be permitted,the truck union said no way so in protest the trucks did not move.But it was Trumps fault,gotcha

    Half of the country does not want gringos meddling in thier business,but want the cash,but it was Trumps fault gotcha

    Nobody had the 50,000 60’ utilility poles sitting around that was Trumps fault gotcha

    90% of the 450,000 other bits that were needed to bring power in are manufactured in other countries because of EPA regulations and had to be manufactured and shipped but that was Trumps fault gotcha

    FEMAs job is to fix as was and not rebuild the entire system,power outages and people depending on machines were dieing long before Trump but now it is Trumps fault.

    Trump did not create decades of neglect,corruption and disrepair on the island that led up to those deaths,that is as dumb as saying what happened to Detroit was Trumps fault.

    But that is how it works,as long as you keep sending us money we do not need to have any personal responsibility.

    Those deaths are on the storm and the political parties that run that country and it would not of mattered who was president at the time,when you sell your own people out for a dollar what ever happens is on your head.

    It is simple,you live on an island in the ocean that is in the hurricane path,you have to figure that a hurricane is going to hit you so maybe it is a good idea to have a plan in place before the thing hits?

    Or at the very least maybe test or have emergency back up generators for the hospital and although it may be a stretch but also have somebody that knows how to start one up.

    Naw,that is to difficult,we will just stick with our little money making political fiefdoms and blame it on Trump if a hurricane hits.

    Build a house on top of the railroad tracks,train comes through and levels the house. Who is to blame,you,the train or Trump?
    Last edited by Richard; September-12-18 at 09:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bham1982 View Post

    Putting aside the idiotic link to lying Russian troll Breitbart, we had the exact same economy under Obama, and that was allegedly a "disaster" per Dotard.

    And economic numbers have zero to do with whether or not the President is a criminal, idiot, liar, racist, jerk and in cahoots with Russia. Donny can crow about the allegedly now-"fabulous" economy from a prison cell.

    A little history for you.

    Mar-a-Lago was built in 1927 by Mrs Post [[of post cereal) and Mr E. F. Hutton.

    When she passed in 1978 it was bequeathed to the National Park Service to be used as a winter white house,The Kennedy compound which is down the street was used as a winter white house by the Kennedy's.

    Even further down the street is the estate of the late President Harding who also stayed there as a winter white house retreat,it is now owned by his grandson.

    In 1981 then president Ronald Reagan,who preferred Biscayne Bay in Miami put it on the market because of the holding cost to the taxpayer.

    Your current president Trump purchased it in 1985 and turned it into a social club once again,which put the old monied West Palm upside down.

    You see Trump was a bit more money motivated,for 100,000 initial fee and 14,000 a year there after anybody could join.That is what the average timeshare sells for in Orlando.

    What pissed the rest of Palm Beach off was the anybody part,because it included Jews,persons of color,unmarried women and openly gay.

    They were not having that and the old school titian generational wealth which still holds immense power in this country were quite taken back.

    So take a guy that goes up against some of the most powerful behind the scenes trillionairs and billionaires and allows anybody no matter race color or creed to join in their little walled off community takes bigger cahonies and kinda kills the racist aspect.

    He could have made the same amount of money towing the line with way less headache and made even more powerful friends.

    But he is a racist lol maybe to the minions.
    Last edited by Richard; September-14-18 at 12:27 AM.

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    Paul Manafort...GUILTY [[again!)

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...l-counsel.html

    Manafort has cut a deal with Mueller and will plead guilty to avoid his second criminal trial in DC. He is expected to appear in court later today to enter his guilty pleas. Happy Friday y'all!

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    Uh oh, Manafort cuts "cooperation deal" with Mueller as part of his guilty plea:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...tion-agreement

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    Lol! I wonder if Trump still has that same opinion about Manafort now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Paul Manafort...GUILTY [[again!)

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...l-counsel.html

    Manafort has cut a deal with Mueller and will plead guilty to avoid his second criminal trial in DC. He is expected to appear in court later today to enter his guilty pleas. Happy Friday y'all!

    You guys are funny,how many times have you used the stop getting your news from fox argument and here you are posting a fox news link.

    What exactly does this have to do with russian collusion?

    Nothing yet hugh,so he agreed to cooperate on things that happened long before and that is the smoking gun lol

    I would bet if one goes back to all of the players in previous administrations and put them under the microscope you would get the same results.

    It is Friday maybe Monday they will have some evidence of the Russian collusion within the Trump administration.

    All they are doing now is throwing bones to the minions to appease them and they like to chew on them for sure.

    They say keep your eye on the ball but I am thinking that one was knocked out of the park long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    You guys are funny,how many times have you used the stop getting your news from fox argument and here you are posting a fox news link.

    What exactly does this have to do with russian collusion?

    Nothing yet hugh,so he agreed to cooperate on things that happened long before and that is the smoking gun lol

    I would bet if one goes back to all of the players in previous administrations and put them under the microscope you would get the same results.

    It is Friday maybe Monday they will have some evidence of the Russian collusion within the Trump administration.

    All they are doing now is throwing bones to the minions to appease them and they like to chew on them for sure.

    They say keep your eye on the ball but I am thinking that one was knocked out of the park long ago.
    It's called corruption within the "current" administration. No need to bring up previous administrations. You can defend it all you want but it's slowly chipping away, one by one.

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    Richard, do you believe in QAnon? You seem like you would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    It's called corruption within the "current" administration. No need to bring up previous administrations. You can defend it all you want but it's slowly chipping away, one by one.
    Actually if you notice,it is not about corruption within the “current” administration,it is about people that are accused of committing crimes before joining the current administration.

    Easy enough for you to post links of proven corruption happening within the current administration.

    You can do that correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Richard, do you believe in QAnon? You seem like you would.
    I never had heard about that until you posted it so,I have to question as to how you came about it?

    I just base things on facts,others base things on precieved notions in order to fill an agenda.

    One can create as many scenarios in thier head as they deem necessary in order to make thier case but it does not make it correct.

    You guys started all of this with the whole Trump colluding with the Russians in order to win the election,as of date the only thing that has been accomplished is people brought to court for actions that they may have done before joining the current administration and zero to do with the original claim.

    You look at people being held accountable as wins in destroying the Trump administration but in the meantime,

    He is still your president
    Somebody leaves and somebody else takes thier place
    the country is still moving forward
    The sky is still floating way up there
    Your current president is still President Trump

    So outside of throwing a few people in jail for things that happened before What exactly do you have to show for the millions being spent and yet you have once again failed to meet your original objective.

    Notice the pattern of your failure to meet objectives while your opponent is meeting his on a daily basis,that really has to suck.

    No wonder you guys see so much delight in nothing relevant,as desperate as it is,all it is doing is poking more holes in your sinking ship.

    Most see failure as not an option while others embrace it as a form of winning,the latter does not seem to be winning elections as of late.
    Last edited by Richard; September-14-18 at 01:23 PM.

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    1. Children still in jails, taken from parents.
    2. Has Ivanka and Junior in the WH.
    3. Never released his taxes.
    4. Said horrible things about Senator McCain, disabled reporter, Gold Star family; sides with the KKK and David Duke.
    5. Has Steven Miller in WH.
    6. Is a racist, period.
    7. Knows nothing about our laws or constitution.
    8. Believes he is above the law.
    9. Does not think a woman is equal to a man.
    10. 3,000 people died in Puerto Rico.
    11. Brings his in-laws into country as "chain migration".
    12. Makes taxpayers pay for his golf outings at his club.
    13. Has dismantled the EPA, Department of Education...and more.
    14. Has lied about everything since the day he decided to run for the office.
    15. The whole Kavanaugh thing stinks to high heaven.
    16. Emoluments clause.
    17. Has no impulse control whatsoever.
    18. Meets with Putin and Kim Jong-un without a record of what was said.
    19. Trashes the CIA, FBI, Justice Department because they enforce the rule of law.
    20. Colluded with the Russians.
    21. No morality, empathy, education; he would not have lasted at a regular employer - doesn't have the ability or attitude to run a gas station.

    There you go, Richard. Don't tell me that the only thing that matters is the Dow and profits. That is not what this country stands for.

    Thank goodness for Robert Mueller!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    So outside of throwing a few people in jail for things that happened before What exactly do you have to show for the millions being spent and yet you have once again failed to meet your original objective.
    The Mueller investigation has cost about $18 million so far. With the Manafort guilty pleas/verdict, Mueller will recoup $46 million in ill-gotten assets from Paul Manafort. Net gain to the U.S. taxpayer: +$28 million dollars.

    So you can probably just go ahead and give that particular talking point a rest. We're making money off of the Mueller investigation.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...stigation.html

    Manafort will forfeit many of his assets as part of the deal, including money in several bank accounts, an apartment in Trump Tower, and one in downtown Manhattan; worth about $46 million, these assets single-handedly cover the cost of the Mueller investigation.

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    Anyone who needs help finding examples of corruption in the Trump white house must have their MAGA blindfolds on.

    The first one lists so many, with references, you may have to read it in two parts:

    Confronting the Cost of Trump’s Corruption to American Families
    https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...ican-families/

    Juan Williams: Trump weaves web of corruption
    http://thehill.com/opinion/white-hou...-of-corruption

    Corruption in the Trump Administration Is Spreading
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...pruitt/563441/

    I'm not going to spoonfeed you. Read them yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    The Mueller investigation has cost about $18 million so far. With the Manafort guilty pleas/verdict, Mueller will recoup $46 million in ill-gotten assets from Paul Manafort. Net gain to the U.S. taxpayer: +$28 million dollars.

    So you can probably just go ahead and give that particular talking point a rest. We're making money off of the Mueller investigation.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...stigation.html

    Yes, but you have to ask yourself; didn't Manafort deserve that money?

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