"Pure Michigan" campaign, state image damaged by Flint. A pivot toward Detroit?

**Gistok** · April-11-16, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by TTime

Pure Michigan definitely and rightfully did little spots on Detroit and Flint but if you remove water as a selling point for Michigan you're basically left with Pure Kansas but with way more crime and less steak.

Sorry.... that's pure BS....

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...otation_419297

**TTime** · April-11-16, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Gistok

Sorry.... that's pure BS....

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...otation_419297

Sorry but that's my opinion. They can try to make Michigan a tourist destination without focusing on water but it's very unlikely to work and if they do it will be a mistake. You may love it but that doesn't mean others do. Do you really think large numbers of people are going to burn vacation days to visit Detroit? Do you want to burn vacation days to visit Kansas City or Cleveland....or St Louis? Yeah me neither. Take off your homer glasses and really look around....our Lakes [[mainly north and west) are a world class draw but unfortunately cities like Detroit are simply below average and won't be a significant tourist draw.

**Gistok** · April-11-16, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by TTime

Sorry but that's my opinion. They can try to make Michigan a tourist destination without focusing on water but it's very unlikely to work and if they do it will be a mistake. You may love it but that doesn't mean others do. Do you really think large numbers of people are going to burn vacation days to visit Detroit? Do you want to burn vacation days to visit Kansas City or Cleveland....or St Louis? Yeah me neither. Take off your homer glasses and really look around....our Lakes [[mainly north and west) are a world class draw but unfortunately cities like Detroit are simply below average and won't be a significant tourist draw.

What the heck are you talking about?? In my link they don't even mention Detroit... just other pursuits... such as biking or golf or other leisure activities not involving going into water??

Did you LOOK at the link??

**TTime** · April-11-16, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Gistok

What the heck are you talking about?? In my link they don't even mention Detroit... just other pursuits... such as biking or golf or other leisure activities not involving going into water??

Did you LOOK at the link??

Yes. You said my take was BS and I defended it. Not sure what you're so worked up about and the last time I checked you can go for a bike ride in Kansas. Sorry not sure what our disconnect is here but I was simply defending my stance that you called BS. I would push our access to water, not our bike paths and definitely not cities that won't make for a great vacation and to the guy that said people all around the world are interested in Detroit I would agree but I would say the same about Manchester or Chernobyl but just because those places peak my interest that doesn't mean I have them high on my list of vacation destinations.

**Gistok** · April-11-16, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by TTime

Yes. You said my take was BS and I defended it. Not sure what you're so worked up about and the last time I checked you can go for a bike ride in Kansas. Sorry not sure what our disconnect is here but I was simply defending my stance that you called BS. I would push our access to water, not our bike paths and definitely not cities that won't make for a great vacation and to the guy that said people all around the world are interested in Detroit I would agree but I would say the same about Manchester or Chernobyl but just because those places peak my interest that doesn't mean I have them high on my list of vacation destinations.

TTime.... my apology... that reply wasn't intended for you... I got distracted and replied to the wrong person/post.... sorry.

**TTime** · April-11-16, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Gistok

TTime.... my apology... that reply wasn't intended for you... I got distracted and replied to the wrong person/post.... sorry.

No problem at all, all good plus sometimes I deserve it

**jcole** · April-11-16, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by TTime

...Do you want to burn vacation days to visit Kansas City or Cleveland....or St Louis? Yeah me neither. ...

Ummm, yes. Have you ever visited those places?

**Bham1982** · April-11-16, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by jcole

Ummm, yes. Have you ever visited those places?

Most people aren't going to want to vacation in Kansas City. I get that DYes isn't a representative sample of the public, but still, this should be kind of obvious.

Does your Aunt Mary winter in Naples or in Kansas?

**TTime** · April-11-16, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by jcole

Ummm, yes. Have you ever visited those places?

Yes I have visited all 3 either for work or driving through but unfortunately there are other cities that will be the beneficiary of my tourism dollars. Thank you for proving my point though as these cities are ok but let's face it no one wants to spend their vacation somewhere that is just ok.

**jcole** · April-12-16, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by TTime

Yes I have visited all 3 either for work or driving through but unfortunately there are other cities that will be the beneficiary of my tourism dollars. Thank you for proving my point though as these cities are ok but let's face it no one wants to spend their vacation somewhere that is just ok.

You misunderstand; I would burn vaca to stay in those places. I HAVE burned vaca to stay in two of them. St Louis has one of the most iconic monuments in America, and both St Louis and Kansas City are beautiful cities with tons of places to get Q and are central to many other places to visit. St. Charles, MO is a lovely town within driving distance of St Louis and you can travel the Mississippi from there. I haven't been to Cleveland in years but I hear the restaurant scene is pretty damned good and you have Lake Erie, the Rock and Roll HOF and aren't far from Cedar Point.