Indeed, there's a chicken-and-egg dynamic to this entire situation. Bad practices, bad behavior, and bad work ethic lead to both bad management as well as bad individual behavior and bad societal conditions. I too wonder why you only want to acknowledge only one aspect [[management) of both the event itself as well as the entire culture behind so many of the problems in Detroit. We agree that there's a much broader issue than just this case, however, you only see it as one-sided.