I would shop the hell out of a Target downtown.
I would shop the hell out of a Target downtown.
I see, my mistake. You didn't quote my post, so I didn't know you were responding to that particular post.
I know at the peak of the recession, Starbucks closed all of their Detroit location but 2 or 3. I didn't know they started expanding again within the city...
I'm sure if they could get better tenants they would welcome them.Is this Target vetting Detroit for one or just some insignificant blogger vetting Detroit for a City Target. If the latter is true than this is just useless news that could be been left out for I and others had been suggesting the same thing for a couple of years. I still think that either New Center One in midtown or the former Kresge building downtown would be good locations for a City Target. One of the strip malls that is on Jefferson had spaces but the owners prefer to have dollar stores, ghetto furniture stores that sell hub caps and rims, beauty supply stores, and the like
I don't shop at target because of the size of the store. [[way to big for me) But I hope that if it comes they make it bigger than that moose jaw. Every time I go in there hell bent to buy something just to help support them I find something I really like but never in a tall, so I leave with just another t-shirt.
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I would shop the hell out of a target downtown.
THIS:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080401005.html
What the Columbia Heights Target did was build a multi-level Target, yellow brick complex with other stores, in a sketchy [[yet up and coming, it is NW DC after all) neighborhood which literally took 14th Street down to one lane of traffic in either direction, with brick red streetscape. Think Hamtramck with cab stands and bus stops. A Metro stop doesn't hurt.
Read the article and you are smack dab in Midtown [[Ilitchville II, how about Third St, or Second, or Clifford) or Corktown, [[which happens to have a giant swath of sentimental land). I'd prefer Hamtramck, of course. Scoff at it all you want, but those people are here, and they do not want to drive to suburbia to get matching shit for the bathroom, and if other stuff happens to be available in a complex............
Tim Hortons is the worst coffee from the bean-just hopeless. SB coffee too esoteric for me ala expensive fancy cup of burning water crap [[foam or without), but I do drink their tea.
Hah! Nope. Not gonna happen... I still retain a guiltless desire to drive my modest car and put my purchases into my trunk from the shopping cart. Further, I can take a neighbor or friend who does not have a car or ability to drive.
Last edited by Zacha341; September-21-14 at 06:58 AM.
The thing too about a downtown Target is that it must provide a unique shopping experience that you wouldn't find at any other Target, if part of its goal is to attract folks from other parts of the city/region to support it, similar to what the Hudson flagship store was like. The benefits of making that trip downtown would have to outweigh any possible inconveniences...
The other option of course, is a mini-Target similar to the mini-Whole Foods in Midtown...
The CITY TARGET stores are not considered "mini" Target's...they are branded as "City" and although many items are available at both brands the City stores carry a different mix of mercandise.
Until we stand as a majority and tax ourselves to pay for this, it just won't happen. They will just simply locate somewhere else in a community such as Livonia where it's residents are willing to pay more for job growth and wages.
Like nearly all communities and most of those in Detroit want, we pay at city hall for the welfare of the poor by raising the cost of housing and other regressive taxes such as sales and hotel taxes. This is our freedom of choice and what most of want by casting our votes.
Two points:
1. Retail people are constantly in Detroit vetting sites for things. It's not publicized, and you don't hear about every one of them; primarily, you hear about the ones that do decide to site here. A few times you hear about the ones that didn't happen [[like Method Soap).
2. I would predict that a Target would be overrun with shoppers, people here who complain that they would not shop there for whatever reason they are claiming. This is exactly what happened with Whole Foods, which is a store at a much higher price point.
If I could site it, it would be on the east side of Brush Park, using the Mack exit. That Brewster-Douglass site is big enough, and it's right across from Eastern Market [[you'd also have WSU, the DMC, and Lafayette Park/Elmwood traffic). Corktown wouldn't be bad, though with stores like that wanting freeway visibility, you'd probably have to use the sacrosanct Tiger Stadium site or mow down some stuff in North Corktown. NC could put you adjacent to the casino development, which might not be bad in terms of a contiguous area of new development.
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Last edited by Huggybear; September-22-14 at 07:24 AM.
The shopping expérience it would provide is shopping for general goods within the downtown midtown area without having to drive the surburbsThe thing too about a downtown Target is that it must provide a unique shopping experience that you wouldn't find at any other Target, if part of its goal is to attract folks from other parts of the city/region to support it, similar to what the Hudson flagship store was like. The benefits of making that trip downtown would have to outweigh any possible inconveniences...
The other option of course, is a mini-Target similar to the mini-Whole Foods in Midtown...
I think that the downtown midtown area would be best for a City Target with the pedestrian traffic. I would go as far to say that it could fit on the ground level of the Z garage eventhough that would be my last choice
Have you been by there lately? It is filling up fast. No room there for one.
First National Building [[where Papa Joe's was supposed to be)? Might not be a big enough space, but that spot is about as prime as it gets.
There are Target stores all over the country that are located in places with far less foot traffic, and far less overall traffic and nearby activity. It's not like Target is going to build a Detroit store with no parking at all, and be totally dependent on pedestrians to support it. Target would most likely do something similar to the Whole Foods store on Mack, where they are located in a place that is accessible to shoppers arriving on foot, bike, or mass transit, but also provide some dedicated parking as well.
Don't forget the Bloomfield Hills Target at Square Lake and Telegraph! That one has a parking area below the actual store, with escalators and elevators to take you up to the floor where the store is located. A smaller version of that concept could prove perfect for a Target in the city.There are Target stores all over the country that are located in places with far less foot traffic, and far less overall traffic and nearby activity. It's not like Target is going to build a Detroit store with no parking at all, and be totally dependent on pedestrians to support it. Target would most likely do something similar to the Whole Foods store on Mack, where they are located in a place that is accessible to shoppers arriving on foot, bike, or mass transit, but also provide some dedicated parking as well.
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