Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
Yes, I see your comment. My next question is why didn't you take the alternate routes? Even if coming from the suburbs, you could have gotten off the freeway and taken one of the surface streets the rest of the way before getting downtown. Detroit after all is blessed with a very comprehensive street grid, something many cities lack today.

BTW, sitting in traffic for 45 minutes is pretty typical for people in a *normal* big city on a *normal* day. If anything, we're spoiled rotten in that regard.
Ok, Here's the scenario. I didn't decide "Gee, a traffic jam. I'll just sit in it for 45 minutes". I know better then that, and I know Detroit streets better then that. My problem was once I got into it, [[took Lodge South, then I-75 North ramp, thinking I could get to I-375 South), there was nowhere to get off @. Had there been a Woodward exit, I would have taken that. All 3 Gratiot East exits had standing traffic, as did the right lane to get to I-375 South. Couple the Lion's game with the "usual" traffic jam from people getting off @ Lafayette for the Geektown Casino, things were impassable. There was no way you could see fom the Lodge to I-75 South on ramp what was going on until it was too late. They've added 2 stadiums, and a casino, but did nothing to alleviate traffic congestion or aid traffic flow. In fact, removing the Woodward exit ramp made things worse, IMO. Back to Novine, if the same setup was all Novi had for the Novi Mall/shopping area, I bet their customer base would drop off sharply. Being the only football and baseball teams in town, it's either put up or shut up.