Grosse Pointe: Another suburban police department showing their ass

[Danny]

The acts of one person are hardly an indication of institutional racism.

GP for life, You're living inside Richville. Do you see what happens when certain main roads and neighborhood streets are blocked off from Alter Rd. to Mack Ave. Do you see 5 richvilles don't want to see a all Black and blighted Detroit ghettohood next door. Long time ago Five Grosse Pointes streets from Alter Rd. and Mack Ave. were open and free. people from Detroit and Grosse Pointes and walk to and from block by block and visit and shop in those areas. Now its like 8 Mile Rd.-Wyoming St. 5ft concrete wall that stood behind Mendota St. That is the sign of demarcation and institutional racism in action. I thought America had learn from its history long ago. Now we get to see it all over again, just like 1955 to 1965.

[GP For Life]

GP for life, You're living inside Richville. Do you see what happens when certain main roads and neighborhood streets are blocked off from Alter Rd. to Mack Ave. Do you see 5 richvilles don't want to see a all Black and blighted Detroit ghettohood next door. Long time ago Five Grosse Pointes streets from Alter Rd. and Mack Ave. were open and free. people from Detroit and Grosse Pointes and walk to and from block by block and visit and shop in those areas. Now its like 8 Mile Rd.-Wyoming St. 5ft concrete wall that stood behind Mendota St. That is the sign of demarcation and institutional racism in action. I thought America had learn from its history long ago. Now we get to see it all over again, just like 1955 to 1965.

Oh Danny Boy, the streets were open, then the riots happened and we had the XVIII Airborne Corp parachute into our backyards to quell the uprising.

Today, GP is changing the layout of one of its commercial districts to better facilitate a walking community. We happen to care about the health of our populace. Sorry if you see that as "racist".

[Zacha341]

Danny it is not that 'walled' off... I have worked in that area for years and enjoyed lunch, dinner, summer concerts etc. in the Points often. Is it pure racism that people want to retain a lifestyle without the drama of frequent break-ins and car-jackings which are going on the other side of Alter with impunity daily?

Palmer Woods has blocked off some areas. I don't blame them. And there are more black people living in the Pointes who made a choice to leave Detroit. I don't judge people by default for their 'riches'.... it is relative to some extent. If the car-jacker chooses me for my particular 'riches', ala my nice used car and old laptop, where the difference? I am a victim too!!! Probably by the same perpetrator committing crimes the 'burbs'...

I know the GP police can be 'snarky' so I avoid contact with them, and they are strict about traffic enforcement thru those areas. The speed sign says 35 mph. They mean 34 mph!! A dead giveaway is someone speeding say 36 mph pulled over by the GP rollers. They don't know the strict traffic enforcement 'deal'... most eastsiders, or visitors over there know.

GP for life, You're living inside Richville. Do you see what happens when certain main roads and neighborhood streets are blocked off from Alter Rd. to Mack Ave. Do you see 5 richvilles don't want to see a all Black and blighted Detroit ghettohood next door.

[Danny]

Danny it is not that 'walled' off... I have worked in that area for years and enjoyed lunch, dinner, summer concerts etc. in the Points often. Is it pure racism that people want to retain a lifestyle without the drama of frequent break-ins and car-jackings which are going on the other side of Alter with impunity daily?


I know the GP police can be 'snarky' so I avoid contact with them, and they are strict about traffic enforcement thru those areas. The speed sign says 35 mph. They mean 34 mph!! A dead giveaway is someone speeding say 36 mph pulled over by the GP rollers. They don't know the strict traffic enforcement 'deal'... most eastsiders, or visitors over there know.

The barricades on Kercheval St. and Alter Rd. is there. That's a walled-off to me.

[Zacha341]

^^^ Yeah Danny, I hear you, but not walled off like Birwood back in the day. More like Palmer Park adaptations: limited access. In a way I still don't blame GP. I've worked in that area and there are areas along the GP borders that drop off into very bad areas of Detroit, without any form of a 'buffer'. I've seen it personally; shopping, dining in the Pointes - back across the border - you see the stark contrast. Areas you've described in vivid detail in other posts.

There are opportunistic and other crime issues here and in areas of Detroit where the world view of some folks persist in the 'OPP' [[other peoples property) mode. Taking 'other people property', that is.

Some communities in the city and border suburbs are responding with push back, ala cutting off streets, private security fleets, etc. You work hard for what you have and you want to keep it. And some robbers don't just want your materialism, they may want more.

[Gannon]

I'm not sure Danny is right about Kercheval being closed off...that was somebody's PLAN discussed earlier this year, but it hasn't come to fruit. Nor do most of us expect it, or WANT it.

There are a few closed off streets heading towards Alter, but they have no corresponding connections in Detroit. St. Paul does not continue between Alter and the factory.

Hell, that factory closed off more streets than Grosse Point Park ever did...isolating that section of the city from the rest.

So, there's that. No through streets closed off in GPP, as far as I know.


Cheers

[Radioron]

Kercheval IS currently closed between Alter and Wayburn. One of the two water feeds from Detroit Water and Sewerage to GPP is located at this location. Detroit dug and installed a new meter pit several years ago and abandon the old pit in place. The old pit is now collapsing and is being removed. It appears there is some work Detroit must do before the pit can be compete removed and filled in.

[Gannon]

Kercheval IS currently closed between Alter and Wayburn. One of the two water feeds from Detroit Water and Sewerage to GPP is located at this location. Detroit dug and installed a new meter pit several years ago and abandon the old pit in place. The old pit is now collapsing and is being removed. It appears there is some work Detroit must do before the pit can be compete removed and filled in.

I just saw this, RadioRon...thanks. I wonder if Bobby Ferguson's firm had anything to do with the shoddy work?! I looked at the road behind the barrier a moment ago and didn't see anything sinking...

[Danny]

I'm not sure Danny is right about Kercheval being closed off...that was somebody's PLAN discussed earlier this year, but it hasn't come to fruit. Nor do most of us expect it, or WANT it.

There are a few closed off streets heading towards Alter, but they have no corresponding connections in Detroit. St. Paul does not continue between Alter and the factory.

Hell, that factory closed off more streets than Grosse Point Park ever did...isolating that section of the city from the rest.

So, there's that. No through streets closed off in GPP, as far as I know.


Cheers

Kercheval St. is definitely cut off from Alter Rd. I've seen it. So is Essex St. and Korte St. For it's a sign of demarcation from Richville Grosse Pointe Park and Poor Black Detroit.

[warsaw7]

Kercheval St. is definitely cut off from Alter Rd. I've seen it. So is Essex St. and Korte St. For it's a sign of demarcation from Richville Grosse Pointe Park and Poor Black Detroit.

Please get out of the pool immediately. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. There is clearly underground construction going on. My advice get your facts straight before you start crying wolf.

[poobert]

So, there's that. No through streets closed off in GPP, as far as I know.


Cheers

Grayton at Mack. Ironic since Grayton is one of the nicer streets in Detroit [[EEV)

[Gannon]

Grayton at Mack. Ironic since Grayton is one of the nicer streets in Detroit [[EEV)

Thanks. No others across Mack, either...very strange.

[Honky Tonk]

Grayton at Mack. Ironic since Grayton is one of the nicer streets in Detroit [[EEV)

It wasn't done to fend off evil Detroiters. It was done to stop vehicles from cutting down Grayton instead of using Cadieux.