Sarah Palin quits as Alaska Gov.

**Atwater** · July-04-09, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Lowell

Somebody has some goods on her ala Sanford, Ensign, Craig, Haggard, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Swaggert...

Lowell, Lowell, Lowell.. Why so blatantly partisan? You named a slew of public figures who had scandals, all of them right-wing. Could you not think of any left-wing ones? Whenever someone focuses on just one side of the aisle, when the situation clearly can apply to both sides, it takes away credibility from the whole message.

**Sstashmoo** · July-04-09, 12:49 AM

Man! I'm hyperventilating after listening to that. That lady is a friggen nutjob. They have her cold on something. She isn't running for office. She's bailing before the sky falls on her. She's doing what is best for Alaska according to her, resigning.

She sounded like she was reading one of Lorax's posts. Jus' kiddin'..

**Sstashmoo** · July-04-09, 12:51 AM

Quote: "Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

Even the cameraman seemed to be affected by the "crazy" pouring out of this lady. He was aimed up in the trees occasionally.

Blarf · July-04-09, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by FlyingJ

I don't get the hate.

I don't know how you don't get it. Just watch anyone of her interviews. Even those who agree with her on most issues say she's a moron.

**Meddle** · July-04-09, 01:46 AM

I've even heard uncredited comments from the McCain team saying she was almost direct responsible for his loss.

I don't really think he had a chance to begin with though.

**Bobl** · July-04-09, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by ccbatson

She has a shot at 2012 for sure. Remember, 2008 was before Obama socialised and destroyed the country.

Right, Bats. After Bush did such a splendid job:

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**gazhekwe** · July-04-09, 10:44 AM

I liked this part:

We're fishermen up here, and fishermen know, only a dead fish goes with the flow.

See? Only Alaskans could possibly understand anything. All the rest of us are hopeless and don't deserve to "get it." What do Alaskans think of their governor now?

For my part, I sympathize with anyone who strays into elected office and attracts the voracious eye of public opinion. There seems to be no end to it, and the negativity is very wearing. Still, if one is unable to take it way up in Alaska, how would she survive as President? You can't turn on the radio without hearing the unending spew of opinion and speculation about what the President is or is not doing. Makes me tired just listening to it for five minutes.

**Sstashmoo** · July-04-09, 11:21 AM

Quote: "You can't turn on the radio without hearing the unending spew of opinion and speculation about what the President is or is not doing. Makes me tired just listening to it for five minutes."

Same here. I quit watching or listening to the news a while back, national and local. Everyone needs to do that. Run the likes of Rupert Murdoch and his lie factories clean out of the country.

Lorax · July-04-09, 03:06 PM

Wow, some interesting posts here. Sstashmoo is sounding more and more liberal all the time! I thought for sure you could find something redeeming in Ms. Saracuda, say, maybe the hockey mom fashion sense?

I have no pity for someone who goes into something, eyes wide open, then when it's all over, can't stand to be out of the limelight, so she drags her kids into a string of Jerry Springer moments on national TV- she gets what she deserves. I agree she's jumping ship ahead of some really negative news regarding either her ethics scandals, or ever worse.

Good news for hubby Todd- he can go back to his AIP meetings with his boyfriends and rant on Alaskan Exceptionalism.

Lorax · July-04-09, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Sstashmoo

Quote: "You can't turn on the radio without hearing the unending spew of opinion and speculation about what the President is or is not doing. Makes me tired just listening to it for five minutes."

Same here. I quit watching or listening to the news a while back, national and local. Everyone needs to do that. Run the likes of Rupert Murdoch and his lie factories clean out of the country.

OMG, we have agrement! Uncle Poopert, the Australian fascist is indeed someone who's in need of deportation. He can take his shrill, hate baiting spokesmodels, talking heads, etc, with him. Revoke his licenses to own multiple media throughout the country. The people are taking back their airwaves.

**Jimaz** · July-04-09, 04:05 PM

We're fishermen up here, and fishermen know, only a dead fish goes with the flow.

Did she really say that?! To a logician that statement is like the sound of fingernails scraping on a blackboard. From the correct premise that dead fish cannot go upstream it incorrectly concludes that live fish will not go downstream. Yikes.

I'm sure though her base thought it clever enough to arouse that familiar feeling of unjustifiable smugness in their hearts.

You go, girl! ....... [[away.)

**gibran** · July-04-09, 05:18 PM

Guess Fox will get another talk show host....maybe she and Huckabee could form a band...however, folks she ain't done with us yet..by golly...

**Pam** · July-04-09, 05:21 PM

As far as [[female?) governors go, I wouldn't be proud to compare Granholm's record to Palins

Record of what- moose kills? Yes, Palin is ahead in that. Why don't you look up their records and get back to us with some actual facts?

Ravine · July-04-09, 08:05 PM

I notice that some of you have "wished her well."
I don't.
I don't wish for anything bad to happen to her, but I don't wish her well. I thought she was abhorrent, the first time I "experienced" her, and now, either there is something [[additionally) wrong with her, or she is pretending-- very convincingly-- as though that is the case. A play for sympathy, perhaps? "Hhmm. She doesn't seem well. Maybe there's something wrong."
But, I didn't come here to rip on Sarah Palin. Hell, that's easy, like cracking an egg.
The thing that burns my toast is the talk about whether her presence did, or did not, deep-six John McCain's chances at election time.
John McCain chose her as his running mate. If the running mate is alarming enough to cost the candidate the election, that means, at least to me, that the candidate cost himself the election by making a poor choice & a lousy decision, and the candidate is 100% responsible for the results. Who would feel comfortable with voting for a guy who chose a jabbering, loopy dame who doesn't know the difference between a nation and a continent as his running mate?
And don't come around me with any "the RNC made him do it" stuff. Even if the RNC interfered with, or otherwise imposed their will on, his campaign, the strike-out still belongs on the back of his baseball card.

**Meddle** · July-04-09, 10:39 PM

[[CNN) -- Alaskan Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell, who will succeed Gov. Sarah Palin after she leaves office this month, called Palin Alaska's greatest gift to the United States on Saturday.

If that's their 'greatest gift', they should secede.

ccbatson · July-04-09, 10:39 PM

Notice no substantive arguments or criticism of anything she actually did or said...just brainwashed reactions to liberal propaganda.

**gazhekwe** · July-04-09, 10:42 PM

She doesn't seem to have actually said anything much, except that she quit. There were a lot of words there but could YOU make sense of them?

ccbatson · July-04-09, 10:44 PM

The attacks refer to her record in public life and the 2008 campaign.

Lorax · July-05-09, 12:21 AM

Sure, McCain chose her, under duress. He really didn't want to run himself, it was apparent he was only going through the motions. He bombed in the debates, it was a courtesy nod from the RNC that he'd be at the top of this ticket.

The RNC with a little help from Richard Mellon Scaife and fascist writer Bill Kristol are the ones who required the Palin selection. McCain had to go along to get along. Yes, finally the failure was his, and he knew it, but, hey, it's what he does, he's a politician. And not a very good one at that.

As far as I'm concerned, his involvement as one of the Keating Five disqualified him in the first place, but, alas, Americans have short memories for crooked behavior, and seem to forgive politicians for some strange reason.

Saracuda was finished in politics after the 08 election. She's got the personality of a dead flashlight battery and is barely educated enough to come in out of the rain. Sad, really.

Similarly, there are thousands of supporters who are practicioners of the willing suspension of disbelief, or, are just as socially backward and brain dead as she is.

**Bobl** · July-05-09, 08:15 AM

quote: "...As far as I'm concerned, his involvement as one of the Keating Five disqualified him in the first place, but, alas, Americans have short memories for crooked behavior, and seem to forgive politicians for some strange reason..."

True. Turns out, the savings and loan scandal was a practice run.
Also True: McCain chose the architect of the financial disaster, Phil Gramm, as his original financial adviser.

Lorax · July-05-09, 10:36 AM

I Know, that one I forgot to include in my post! Thanks for adding it.

There is so much bad with McCain, that his becoming president would have resulted in two things- total gridlock with a Democratically controlled congress, and eventually removal from office due to health concerns, or anger management issues.

Then Palin would be Prez. Not a pretty picture. She'd no doubt throw in the towel in six months or so, then Nancy Pelosi would be president.

**Sstashmoo** · July-05-09, 11:47 AM

Instead we got a guy that [[according to him) the reason the economy is bad is because people can't borrow money to buy goods and that is putting people out of business, and eliminating jobs. So what he is essentially saying is, if the banks are doing well, so is the economy.

This guy is proving himself to be nothing but a mouthpiece for the powerful lobbies of Washington.

A "real" economy needs no banks at all.

I think some of you need to wake up and smell the coffee, this guy and his people are not going to fix this. His attempt was a Two trillion dollar give away that we have to pay back and if you haven't noticed, it didn't work. I questioned his talent when he was elected, and gave him the benefit of the doubt. Bottom line: He can't fix this.

Lorax · July-05-09, 12:29 PM

Agreed, the problem created and exacerbated by Republicans in congress and the white house, cannot be rectified by the current Democrats in power, since, for one, the problem is so large, and the policies put forth too weak.

One thing about the Democratic electorate, is that they are holding Obama's feet to the fire on many issues, unlike the Republicans who rubber stamped any and everything Tush/Cheney regurgitated.

No one I know who voted for Obama thinks his economic policy has enough bite to do much good, certainly this year, though with the lion's share of the Stim coming through much later, I'll reserve harsher judgement until then.

The problem I think for Obama, is that he's reticent about forcing through a tougher agenda, eventhough he largely has the votes, since the blowback from the Reich will render this a Democratic issue only, and may have consequences in 2010 and beyond.

I, personally, and many others I know feel he needs to take a tougher stance. I believe it's worth the possible loss of seats in 2010, and there is evidence to suggest that bolder action is the only thing that will right the ship.

Going soft on a public option for health care, and taking single payer off the table is the first mistake.

Next would be Harry Reid, who, through parliamentry procedure keeps his leadership position, when he hasn't the ability to really do his job, and put some stick about. He needs to be to the left of Obama, which is where his constituents are, rather he's to the right.

Progressives which are the larger face of the left, have little representation in congress, with entrenched Democratic interests such as Diane Feinstein, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and others really representing a further right ideology than the mainstream progressives which swept Obama into power.

This is why the 60 vote majority is so important. There will be defectors on the left, and with a lockstepping Reich, there is every indication that sweeping reform will come in pieces, rather than in bold measures.

In spite of all of this, I'm comforted to a large degree that we have Obama in office rather than McCain, which would have been a gridlocked, unmitigated disaster, on just about all fronts.

It's going to be knee-jerky next four years.

**wash_man** · July-05-09, 12:41 PM

Lorax & Sstashmoo:
Did you REALLY think the economy would be turned around by now?

Sstashmoo: Your criticism is heard, but what are YOUR suggestions? Maybe McCain and Bailin Palin would have been a better team!

Lorax · July-05-09, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by wash_man

Lorax & Sstashmoo:
Did you REALLY think the economy would be turned around by now?

Sstashmoo: Your criticism is heard, but what are YOUR suggestions? Maybe McCain and Bailin Palin would have been a better team!

I am well prepared to wait and see. There is much more of the original Stim to come out later this year. It's a little light on infrastructure, and a little too heavy on bank bailouts, but I am prepared to wait.