Horrific Home Invasion on Detroit's West side

[davewindsor]

Bottom line is that these robbers and rapists are getting bolder, in various areas and overlapping from one better area from the bad one on block over etc.

Um, not to downplay this, but where does it say these were "rapists"? The newsreporter said she was tied up, beaten over the head with something and she was also "sexually assaulted". If you're waiting in line and accidently rub up against a woman's butt or breast, that's considered sexual assault, but you're not a rapist, are you? If cops frisk you, they're not rapists either. Maybe they frisked her for her SUV keys or anything else in her pockets. If she was raped, then wouldn't the reporter say she was raped instead of "sexually assaulted"? How do you jump from A to Z?

[Zacha341]

^^^ Distinction noted and a case for argumentation beyond this situation, granted. For certain on the globe there are those ranking forms of contact as absurd and debatable as you state, 'sexual assault'. Whatever the context or instance.

I seriously doubt that ambiguity is the case here.

Channel 4 uses the word sexual assault and 'rape' [[watch the video). Fox says sexual assault. Neither of these constitute being rubbed 'up against'. I doubt the invaders engaged her at that level. She is in the hospital so the attack and assault was grievous for certain.

Sexual assault of various forms are forms of unlawful behavior, inclusive of specific penetration.

Maybe these creeps [[roaming the streets free) will just 'rub' against their next victim?

[davewindsor]

^^^ Distinction note and a case for argumentation beyond this situation, granted. For certain on the globe there are those judging forms of contact as absurd and debatable as you state, 'sexual assault'. Whatever the context or instance.

I seriously doubt that ambiguity is the case here.

Channel 4 uses the word sexual assault and 'rape' [[watch the video). Fox says sexual assault. Neither of these constitute being rubbed 'up against'. I doubt the invaders engaged her at that level. She is in the hospital so the attack and assault was grievous for certain.

Sexual assault of various forms are forms of unlawful behavior, inclusive of specific penetration.

Maybe these creeps [[roaming the streets free) will just 'rub' against their next victim?

Maybe you're right that she was raped. I don't know. But, I'm confused with both reports saying so many different things that I don't know what's true.

Fox says it was 4 men who broke in. Channel 4 says it was 3 men.

Fox says it was sexual assault and makes no mention of rape.

Fox says she was beaten over the head with an object. Chanel 4 says she was physically assaulted, but makes no mention of the object she was assaulted with. Being assaulted with an object is a different crime from being assaulted physically.

The Chanel 4 newscasters now says it's rape, but the reporter on the scene later on in the Chanel 4 clip says it was sexual assault and makes no mention of rape.

[mkhopper]

Fox says it was 4 men who broke in. Channel 4 says it was 3 men.

Fox says it was sexual assault and makes no mention of rape.

Fox says she was beaten over the head with an object. Chanel 4 says she was physically assaulted, but makes no mention of the object she was assaulted with. Being assaulted with an object is a different crime from being assaulted physically.

I'm confused as to why these nitpicky, minor details are being questioned.

Other than the criminals themselves, apparently the only true witness is the victim and who knows what her mental state is, or was, when trying to give information to the police. It also depends on what officer relayed the information to the various reporters. Small details could be worded differently or even heard incorrectly. "Oh, it was four men? I thought I heard 'three' earlier by another officer."

Who cares?

Bottom line is it's just another unfortunate incident carried out by [[likely, given the neighborhood) a group of thugs looking to make a few bucks the only way they know how. Stealing by force.

It's too bad this woman unknowingly made a target of herself by keeping up a nice home and yard and by having an SUV parked in the driveway.

[Zacha341]

Yes, for certain the Channel 4 video reporter says rape. It's crazy and horrific to know you are not safe in your own home. And how these criminals are choosing their marks of prey, and do know they are. Course some will get a hot metal projectile surprise coming their way if they try it.

[Cincinnati_Kid]

Maybe you're right that she was raped. I don't know. But, I'm confused with both reports saying so many different things that I don't know what's true.

Fox says it was 4 men who broke in. Channel 4 says it was 3 men.

Fox says it was sexual assault and makes no mention of rape.

Fox says she was beaten over the head with an object. Chanel 4 says she was physically assaulted, but makes no mention of the object she was assaulted with. Being assaulted with an object is a different crime from being assaulted physically.

The Chanel 4 newscasters now says it's rape, but the reporter on the scene later on in the Chanel 4 clip says it was sexual assault and makes no mention of rape.

Just another sign of how the news media perpetuates stories to get ratings.

[kacz1]

Bottom line it still in Detroit

[Honky Tonk]

Just another sign of how the news media perpetuates stories to get ratings.

So your saying it never happened? Maybe she was never hospitalized? Maybe it was just a party gone bad? That would make for a fine rosy picture of Detroit, and we could all go back to our lattes.

[Cincinnati_Kid]

You misunderstood me. Not saying it never happened, I'm saying sometimes the media sensationalizes stories sometimes. Make them seem worse than they actually were.