[Reopened!] Kercheval at Wayburn will be closed to traffic in Grosse Pointe Park.

**noggin** · December-23-12, 08:51 AM

The first 3 western streets have the highest crime rate in GPP. I am not surprised they feel that way. Probably just getting tired of being crime victims.

**Zacha341** · December-23-12, 09:00 AM

Yeah, I was reading some GP crime stats and some were careless things one could argue like leaving cars unlocked and garage doors open. We Detroiter's have long given up such practices. Then there are open face to face robberies in the day time.

Originally Posted by noggin

The first 3 western streets have the highest crime rate in GPP. I am not surprised they feel that way. Probably just getting tired of being crime victims.

**stasu1213** · December-26-12, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

Yeah, I was reading some GP crime stats and some were careless things one could argue like leaving cars unlocked and garage doors open. We Detroiter's have long given up such practices. Then there are open face to face robberies in the day time.

We Detroiters had given up such practices resulting in the riff raff being bold enough to make GP their prey. I would love to live in a community where I could leave my garage door open and car doors unlock. My tax dollars would pay for the police protection even if it would resulting the cops to profile and harrass suspicious looking characters. GP had slackened on those practices. As late as the 90's GP was considered a "Sundown town". Criminals would not dare to look across Mack, Morross, nor Alter. They knew what would happen to them if they came across those invisible lines. More single parent mothers from Detroit had moved into the Parks within the past 10 years. Not saying that crime are done by some of their sons. Sometime crime could be caused by perpetrators who live in GP for many years. There are many Meth addicts in all suburban communities

**Zacha341** · December-27-12, 08:19 AM

The Pointes in general are still 'get out of Dodge' territory relative to driving per speeding... I don't mean someone clocking 47 in a 35 zone. I mean when the sign says 35 you better not go 36 mph over! Or you WILL BE STOPPED!

You can always tell someone who is not familiar with their tight traffic speed enforcement, you see them pulled over all along Jefferson beyond Alter even a block or into Detroit by the GP Police. And of course anyone presenting with warrants, no car insurance, suspended license or other 'issues' will have a very bad day when stopped.

Originally Posted by stasu1213

...As late as the 90's GP was considered a "Sundown town". Criminals would not dare to look across Mack, Morross, nor Alter. They knew what would happen to them if they came across those invisible lines.

**Gistok** · December-27-12, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

The Pointes in general are still 'get out of Dodge' territory relative to driving per speeding... I don't mean someone clocking 47 in a 35 zone. I mean when the sign says 35 you better not go 36 mph over! Or you WILL BE STOPPED!

You can always tell someone who is not familiar with their tight traffic speed enforcement, you see them pulled over all along Jefferson beyond Alter even a block or into Detroit by the GP Police. And of course anyone presenting with warrants, no car insurance, suspended license or other 'issues' will have a very bad day when stopped.

My experience was a little different.... before Christmas 2011 I drove eastwards on Mack Ave.... and got pulled over by GPP police. It seemed that my one brake light was out. He gave me a ticket with instructions. I replaced the bulb the following week, drove down to the GPP police station, saw the officer who issued it in the parking lot as I got out of the car... he came up to me, checked my citation, checked my now working brake light... took the ticket and my one dollar bill, shook my hand wishing me a safe holiday, and walked the ticket into the police station himself... leaving me stunned at the unexpected cordiality that I was unaccustomed to...

**Zacha341** · December-27-12, 09:05 AM

^^^ Oh, I did say they would not be cordial... they are just very thorough [[driver best have their paperwork intact). And precise about any level of speeding, which is ok with me as I rarely speed while driving... lead-footers will find it challenging.

**Gistok** · December-27-12, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

^^^ Oh, I did say they would not be cordial... they are just very thorough [[driver best have their paperwork intact). And precise about any level of speeding, which is ok with me as I rarely speed while driving... lead-footers will find it challenging.

No Zacha341... you were quite right... I was just unprepared for that type of treatment from ANY police department... They're usually much more business like and emotionally detached...