Whats the point of the island on Mound Rd?

**Scottathew** · December-23-12, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Sehv313

From the Detroit river to 8 mile Mt. Elliot is the only street that runs through the entire city limits, Woodward stops thru h.p. and at campus martius then continues, Telegraph & Livernois dont run through all of city limits to the river & Vandyke does not continue south of Jefferson, Making Mt. Elliot the only street you can ride from 8 mile road south to the river front without taking a single detour

Not quite sure I agree...

Woodward starts at the river [[Jefferson) and goes around Campus Martius [[but is still contiguous) and goes all the way up to 8-Mile and beyond. It never stops.

Also, Mt. Elliot is not contiguous. At the rail road tracks [[where Mound begins) it breaks up. If you're going north you have to take Harold to get back to NB Mt. Elliot. If you're going SB you have to take Mt. Elliot Court to Caniff to Mound, then you can continue SB.

But to the original point, that's why the 696\Mound interchange is so huge and wasteful, it was supposed to connect with another freeway.

**poobert** · December-23-12, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by 48091

Not quite sure I agree...

Woodward starts at the river [[Jefferson) and goes around Campus Martius [[but is still contiguous) and goes all the way up to 8-Mile and beyond. It never stops.

Also, Mt. Elliot is not contiguous. At the rail road tracks [[where Mound begins) it breaks up. If you're going north you have to take Harold to get back to NB Mt. Elliot. If you're going SB you have to take Mt. Elliot Court to Caniff to Mound, then you can continue SB.

But to the original point, that's why the 696\Mound interchange is so huge and wasteful, it was supposed to connect with another freeway.

Broadway Auto Parts is pretty solid, if you lose any car parts during your Mount Elliot trans-Detroit journey. Just got me a sideview mirror there.

**Scottathew** · December-23-12, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by poobert

Broadway Auto Parts is pretty solid, if you lose any car parts during your Mount Elliot trans-Detroit journey. Just got me a sideview mirror there.

I drive by there quite a lot. When NB I-75 is slow my alternate is Gratiot -> Mt. Elliot -> Mound -> 48091

**Sehv313** · December-24-12, 03:28 AM

What would be good ideas for all of the space on Mound Rd. ,I think a rail line would be great or adding a couple businessess along the road would be nice. It's a shame that It's noting to do on such a wide commercial strip like that.

**Scottathew** · December-24-12, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Sehv313

What would be good ideas for all of the space on Mound Rd. ,I think a rail line would be great or adding a couple businessess along the road would be nice. It's a shame that It's noting to do on such a wide commercial strip like that.

Well, the issue is in Detroit, Mound Road has very little commercial businesses. In fact, you don't really see any commercial businesses until about 12 Mile Road in Warren, and then it drops off again pretty quicky as you get into Sterling Heights.

However, one thing that might support a rail line is all the automotive and other manufacturing in the cooridor.

I would much rather favor major cooridors like Gratiot, Woodward, Michigan, Grand River, and Fort for rail lines.

Mt. Elliot\Mound just doesn't really hit any major destinations. Perhaps it was modified a little bit it could end on Belle Isle and connect with a Jefferson\Fort line that could take you to Downtown\RenCen\JLA\Cobo\Canada.

Perhaps it might be a very long-term possibility, but right now we need to get light rail adoption on the more obvious choices, first and foremost being Woodward. M-DOT's website claims M1 rail construction will start in 2013.

We don't really need contigous streets to make rail lines. For example, I most certainly would support the M1 Rail line taking deviating from M1 to go into downtown Royal Oak. It just makes sense.

**erikd** · December-26-12, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by 48091

Well, the issue is in Detroit, Mound Road has very little commercial businesses. In fact, you don't really see any commercial businesses until about 12 Mile Road in Warren, and then it drops off again pretty quicky as you get into Sterling Heights.

However, one thing that might support a rail line is all the automotive and other manufacturing in the cooridor.

I would much rather favor major cooridors like Gratiot, Woodward, Michigan, Grand River, and Fort for rail lines.

Mt. Elliot\Mound just doesn't really hit any major destinations. Perhaps it was modified a little bit it could end on Belle Isle and connect with a Jefferson\Fort line that could take you to Downtown\RenCen\JLA\Cobo\Canada.

Perhaps it might be a very long-term possibility, but right now we need to get light rail adoption on the more obvious choices, first and foremost being Woodward. M-DOT's website claims M1 rail construction will start in 2013.

We don't really need contigous streets to make rail lines. For example, I most certainly would support the M1 Rail line taking deviating from M1 to go into downtown Royal Oak. It just makes sense.

There already is a rail line running up the Mound Road corridor. It runs behind the businesses on the east side of Mound, and it serves all of the industrial useage that is located in that long strip between Mound and Van Dyke.

**Hermod** · December-26-12, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by erikd

There already is a rail line running up the Mound Road corridor. It runs behind the businesses on the east side of Mound, and it serves all of the industrial useage that is located in that long strip between Mound and Van Dyke.

At one time, that rail line [[Michigan Central) went all the way to Mackinac. Passenger service to Bay City [[then cut back to Saginaw) ran on that line till the mid-sixties in the form of a Budd RDC-3. The line has now been torn up north of Utica.

Here is a pic of the RDC near Oxford.

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**Brian1979** · December-27-12, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by 48091

Well, the issue is in Detroit, Mound Road has very little commercial businesses. In fact, you don't really see any commercial businesses until about 12 Mile Road in Warren, and then it drops off again pretty quicky as you get into Sterling Heights.

However, one thing that might support a rail line is all the automotive and other manufacturing in the cooridor.

I would much rather favor major cooridors like Gratiot, Woodward, Michigan, Grand River, and Fort for rail lines.

Mt. Elliot\Mound just doesn't really hit any major destinations. Perhaps it was modified a little bit it could end on Belle Isle and connect with a Jefferson\Fort line that could take you to Downtown\RenCen\JLA\Cobo\Canada.

Perhaps it might be a very long-term possibility, but right now we need to get light rail adoption on the more obvious choices, first and foremost being Woodward. M-DOT's website claims M1 rail construction will start in 2013.

We don't really need contigous streets to make rail lines. For example, I most certainly would support the M1 Rail line taking deviating from M1 to go into downtown Royal Oak. It just makes sense.

You don't really need a street to run a rail line at all. Here in Chicago the L runs over the tops of alley's and over the top of streets as well as two subways downtown which run under streets. So I don't think there needs to be a street to run a rail line.

**Sehv313** · December-27-12, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Brian1979

You don't really need a street to run a rail line at all. Here in Chicago the L runs over the tops of alley's and over the top of streets as well as two subways downtown which run under streets. So I don't think there needs to be a street to run a rail line.

I agree with you.