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    As a former tenant of the Grand Lofts, I can tell you that there is no way in hell that this building could pass any city or state inspection which I believe would grant them this occupancy. I lived on the 3rd floor and in the spring, when it rained, I had a gorgeous waterfall cascading down the walls. Think that nice cascade in the Atheneum Hotel when you're taking the old walkway to Greektown Casino.

    Someone should check out the fact that he was paying the fire chief to keep his places open. There's the real story.. But good luck to all of the people who are in this position. Karma is coming back to bite Kefallinos in the butt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivadetroit View Post
    As a former tenant of the Grand Lofts, I can tell you that there is no way in hell that this building could pass any city or state inspection which I believe would grant them this occupancy. I lived on the 3rd floor and in the spring, when it rained, I had a gorgeous waterfall cascading down the walls. Think that nice cascade in the Atheneum Hotel when you're taking the old walkway to Greektown Casino.

    Someone should check out the fact that he was paying the fire chief to keep his places open. There's the real story.. But good luck to all of the people who are in this position. Karma is coming back to bite Kefallinos in the butt.
    I think they call that a water feature on HGTV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivadetroit View Post
    As a former tenant of the Grand Lofts, I can tell you that there is no way in hell that this building could pass any city or state inspection which I believe would grant them this occupancy. I lived on the 3rd floor and in the spring, when it rained, I had a gorgeous waterfall cascading down the walls. Think that nice cascade in the Atheneum Hotel when you're taking the old walkway to Greektown Casino.

    Someone should check out the fact that he was paying the fire chief to keep his places open. There's the real story.. But good luck to all of the people who are in this position. Karma is coming back to bite Kefallinos in the butt.
    Not blaming the victim, but I'm really curious as to why the heck people rent from this well known slumlord? It's not like its a secret that DK/Boydell are terrible landlords and it's not like there is some shortage of housing around here. Yet people keep renting from him and then bitching that he's a slumlord. Is the rent insanely cheap?

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    Wow, judge much!?! "Not blaming the victim" - seriously, yes, you are.

    A lot of the people who stay there are there for many reasons: lost home to foreclosure/fire/eviction/etc, recent divorce/breakups, somewhere cheap & quick to move into when you're in a pinch, month-to-month leases, etc. Don't judge others unless you've been in someone's place.

    In my case, I had lived in the Greektown Lofts & loved the place. I thought the Grand Lofts would be the same. I was wrong! I lived there for 3-4 months in early 2009 and then moved. None of my neighbors stayed for more than 6 months at the Grand Lofts.

    The Greektown Lofts are probably the best of the lot. I would live there again if I lived in Detroit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivadetroit View Post
    Wow, judge much!?! "Not blaming the victim" - seriously, yes, you are.

    A lot of the people who stay there are there for many reasons: lost home to foreclosure/fire/eviction/etc, recent divorce/breakups, somewhere cheap & quick to move into when you're in a pinch, month-to-month leases, etc. Don't judge others unless you've been in someone's place.

    In my case, I had lived in the Greektown Lofts & loved the place. I thought the Grand Lofts would be the same. I was wrong! I lived there for 3-4 months in early 2009 and then moved. None of my neighbors stayed for more than 6 months at the Grand Lofts.

    The Greektown Lofts are probably the best of the lot. I would live there again if I lived in Detroit.
    Oh gimmie a break. I'm not judging anyone. I'm asking why, when there are tons of places all over metro detroit that are dying for renters, so many choose to rent from a known slum lord. I mean you can't throw a rock without hitting a apt complex advertising free rent/wi-fi...etc. My good friend just went through a break up and needed to get into an apt. he had a new place secured after an afternoon of looking.

    Of course he wasn't limiting his search to hipster Detroit loft space with cool urban vibes.... he was more utilitarian in his search. He was just looking for a place that was affordable, clean, that he could get into quickly, and that was not owned by a slum lord.

    Clearly DK has found a market segment that he can screw over repeatedly [[as evidenced by the numerous threads here and elsewhere and just word of mouth/common knowledge) and still keep his buildings full. Are we that desperate for "lofts" buildings?

    p.s. re: Greektown lofts... pretty sure there is a thread here about tenant nightmares there too. So, maybe you had a good experience dealing with DK properties, but you appear to be in the minority
    Last edited by bailey; August-03-12 at 08:39 AM.

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