If you want happy talk you're not going to get it from me. My brother lives right on Hubbard a block or two south of West Vernor. There is some nice housing in that part of town, older well built brich houses. The area is rough though, police response is very slow to non existent.
My brother does not feel comfortable talking a walk down the street after dark, he has been robbed at gunpoint once. His house has been broken into. It's now a virtual fortress, as long as he doesn't forget to lock something.
He lives [[if you call that style of life living) with steel bar gates, guard dogs and guns. It's not my first choice of an area to raise a family in.
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