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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    IIRC.... Craig Schubiner was the nane of the developer who wouldn't give up... and pitted one Oakland County entity against another [[West Bloomfield vs. Pontiac)... and I even remember Birmingham annexation was considered.

    The end result is something that looks like a surreal North Korean failed development....
    That would be Bloomfield Twp.Just another Pontiac foul-up.The Wide-Track Loop around downtown,tearing down the county courthouse,depending on GM for decades.Oh,did I mention the Silverdome and a clownsil that makes Detroit look like professionals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckycar View Post
    That would be Bloomfield Twp.Just another Pontiac foul-up.The Wide-Track Loop around downtown,tearing down the county courthouse,depending on GM for decades.Oh,did I mention the Silverdome and a clownsil that makes Detroit look like professionals.
    The Oakland County government campus is a rather low key sprawling group of buildings along Telegraph Rd.... facing another white elephant... Summit Place Mall....

    As was mentioned on another thread... Macomb County did a much better job of consolidating their county government in a nice tidy downtown Mt. Clemens location.... that pretty much says this is the County Seat. It's almost impossible to tell that Pontiac is Oakland's County Seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    The Oakland County government campus is a rather low key sprawling group of buildings along Telegraph Rd.... facing another white elephant... Summit Place Mall....

    As was mentioned on another thread... Macomb County did a much better job of consolidating their county government in a nice tidy downtown Mt. Clemens location.... that pretty much says this is the County Seat. It's almost impossible to tell that Pontiac is Oakland's County Seat.
    Exactly. Pontiac would be a different place if the complex at 1200 Telegraph was never built. When did that place get built? Does the county have any presence in downtown Pontiac any more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bailey View Post
    Exactly. Pontiac would be a different place if the complex at 1200 Telegraph was never built. When did that place get built? Does the county have any presence in downtown Pontiac any more?
    Bailey... not only did they hurt downtown Pontiac by moving over to their "corporate campus" at Telegraph Rd., but I think they helped killed downtown Pontiac with Wide Track Drive.

    In Mt. Clemens they took care of the problem with "thru" traffic by making North and South Gratiot [[thru downtown) only 1 block apart... but in Pontiac... they just bypassed their downtown completely with that ring road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bailey View Post
    Exactly. Pontiac would be a different place if the complex at 1200 Telegraph was never built. When did that place get built? Does the county have any presence in downtown Pontiac any more?
    I have often thought the same thing. Downtown Pontiac would have been busy, perhaps more restaurants. The entire dynamic of atleast the downtown area would have been different.

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