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    Quote Originally Posted by Papasito View Post
    What about those 11 Democrats? Any comment?
    F*#k those demicans, too! Does anyone here see the absurdity in pointing fingers at republicrats and demicans? Admittedly, I've done it myself on occasion. The problem is the republicrats AND the demicans. They do the very same stupid, criminal things and screw us just the same. The demicans sold their souls [[the little they had left) to the very same corporations as the republicrats. I worked my ass off for Obama's 'Change You Can Believe In', and all I got was a 'Change In Adminstration' and pocket change[[$?). Very little other change I can see. We have, in effect, a ONE party system. Politicians profess profound political and ideological differences but when push comes to shove, they vote their pocketbooks. Their own. Once in office, they're entitled to benefits we'll never experience in a lifetime, including job security working for corporations, think tanks and other politicians. A week or two in that other world - DC and they forget the real world - working America.

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    I'm not sure Papasito can read, or he would know that the disgust toward the Democrats would be close to equal to the disgust toward the Republicans.

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    Have you ever attended a party convention or inaugural week in DC? As a republicrat, a demican or otherwise? I haven't. But I have enough acquaintancess who have and I've read enough reports about those events that there should be absolutely no question about who runs our country: CORPORATIONS. Everything is put on, sponsored or paid completely by multi-national corporations. It's a spectacle similar to Mardi Gras. For anyone believing we have a two party system, attend a convention or inauguration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1KielsonDrive View Post
    Have you ever attended a party convention or inaugural week in DC? As a republicrat, a demican or otherwise? I haven't. But I have enough acquaintancess who have and I've read enough reports about those events that there should be absolutely no question about who runs our country: CORPORATIONS. Everything is put on, sponsored or paid completely by multi-national corporations. It's a spectacle similar to Mardi Gras. For anyone believing we have a two party system, attend a convention or inauguration.
    Or any other event for that matter! The advertising is really becoming overwhelming. Every tv show, every stadium, events, warming tents, music...you name it...it's put on by some corporation to promote their efforts to make money. Corporations and politics all over the world are so closely knit you cannot separate them.

    The only answer I see is to blow it all up and start all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueidone View Post
    Or any other event for that matter! The advertising is really becoming overwhelming. Every tv show, every stadium, events, warming tents, music...you name it...it's put on by some corporation to promote their efforts to make money. Corporations and politics all over the world are so closely knit you cannot separate them.

    The only answer I see is to blow it all up and start all over again.
    I agree!!!!!

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    And we've probably just been tagged by Homeland Security as high-risk for stating our opinions and venting. If I disappear, just pray that they kill me quickly instead of torturing me.

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    I'm not sure Papasito can read, or he would know that the disgust toward the Democrats would be close to equal to the disgust toward the Republicans
    That's a valid point, considering I am a product of the public school system.

    Anyway, I am not sure how it is in Michigan as far as accountability for searching for employment while collecting unemployment... I read the brief summary Wingnatic wrote on post #22.

    In Florida, you claim your weeks online. It asks you one simple question: "Did you look for work in the week starting XX/XX, and you check yes or no. That's it. NO specifics on where or when you applied anywhere. When your basic period runs out, you just keep claiming your weeks on the website without interruption. It's very easy to keep claiming Unemployment without looking for work. I don't know if other states are this simple to claim benefits. I just know first hand that when I was unemployed for 7 months, it literally took me 1 minute to answer like 6 "check the box" questions and my check was in the mail.

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    let the Democrats in the House and Senate vote YES! to keep unemployment benefits going. Let the Republicans pay the tax bills for this ecomonic stimulus.

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    Not having a job sucks, I know, but you can't live off unemployment forever. When?

    Pelosi - "Unemployment insurance, the economists tell us, return $2 for every $1 that is put out there for unemployment insurance," Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on the House floor.

    So the wicked witch of the west is saying is that if more people get unemployed and collect unemployment, it will help the economy! She is a brilliant moron.

    So everyone should quit their jobs in Michigan and collect unemployment and it will turn Michigan around! WOW. Pelosi just solved all of Michigan's economic woes in one quote.

    Liberals believe the government creates jobs and that wealth redistribution drives the economy. That's false, the private sector drives the economy and creates jobs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdogslim View Post
    Not having a job sucks, I know, but you can't live off unemployment forever. When?

    Pelosi - "Unemployment insurance, the economists tell us, return $2 for every $1 that is put out there for unemployment insurance," Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on the House floor.

    So the wicked witch of the west is saying is that if more people get unemployed and collect unemployment, it will help the economy! She is a brilliant moron.

    So everyone should quit their jobs in Michigan and collect unemployment and it will turn Michigan around! WOW. Pelosi just solved all of Michigan's economic woes in one quote.

    Liberals believe the government creates jobs and that wealth redistribution drives the economy. That's false, the private sector drives the economy and creates jobs..
    As usual you must have gotten your talking points straight from Limbaugh's mouth.
    The point Pelosi is trying to make is that the unemployment from the working poor and unemployed will go to stimulate the economy. Most econonist will tell you the middle class basically will spend the money as they get it, whereas the rich will tend to park their money and let it get interest

    The other part of your statement about Pelosi doesn't deserve a response since it was so far out in "right field".

    Also, most liberals believe this... a market system in which government regulates the economy will create a level playing field. Nothing about government creating jobs and redistribution of wealth junk. Liberals aren't necessarily socialist.

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    Maybe a little off the subject, but this question was posed to me by someone else....

    Even if the Federal government approved an extension of unemployment, this person heard that the State of Michigan has NOT approved their portion. Therefore, Michigan residents would not get benefits, anyway.

    Does anyone know if this is true?

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    The truth is the truth no matter it's source. Ah, the RICH talking point, RICH people are evil and keep their money from the POOR. Pelosi said it, the Obama administrations minions said it as well, and the media who gets their talking points from the DNC and Obama repeated it as gospel.
    How can someone not working [[unemployed) taking money from someone who does work
    create a 100% return of economic benefits to the economy??? It's a liberal LIE.
    A transfer of money with the government mafia taking its cut. Who will pay it back?

    Liberalism, Progressive, Democrat, Socialist, they are all pretty much the same thing with a different name. Redistribution of wealth, big government programs to help buy votes, government encroachment into your everyday life.
    Now the Libs want to regulate bake sales in schools, talk about fascism.
    This is the reason so many got sick of the Republicans and Bush, because they got involved in out of control spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corn.Bot View Post
    Why doesn't it cheer me up more to be in good company?
    It's terrible irony when terrible news and experience is what connects us. But, at least we who are sharing our terrible experiences here are also sharing empathy. It's obvious from this website that there are those who could care less about anyone else and are only concerned about their ideologies and politics. Usually, of course, until they experience a tragedy.

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    I heard the Republicans would vote to extend the unemployment benefits if the Democrats would vote to keep the Bush's tax cuts at the same level for all and not to raise taxes on only the rich. Doesn't sound that hard to me and that the Democrats are just as much in blame.

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    Also, while I do agree with helping people in a time of need, I think that some people come to think that unemployment benefits are actually income. While on unemployment, you receive less than $20,000 a year. You are currently allowed to receive benefits for almost two full years. You can make this much money cooking or washing dishes in a restaurant or landscaping or working at a local fast food joint. Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrytimes View Post
    I heard the Republicans would vote to extend the unemployment benefits if the Democrats would vote to keep the Bush's tax cuts at the same level for all and not to raise taxes on only the rich. Doesn't sound that hard to me and that the Democrats are just as much in blame.
    The tax cuts are part of the reason we have a deficit. At least with the tax cuts ending for those that make over $250k some of that money could be re-coup to reduce the deficit somewhat

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    I just heard that on NPR, and it got my blood boiling.


    Class warfare, but with those at the helm benefiting most.

    Saw on another forum where 175 or so members of Congress and the Senate have many hundreds of millions invested in the military/industrial complex, too.

    Wishing Eisenhower would've not changed his exit speech. It originally read "Military/Industrial/LEGISLATIVE Complex"...he didn't want to be found calling out one of the main branches of government at the time. Gave them the benefit of the doubt.

    Damn shame.


    We are SO being played here...the squeeze continues. When will it pop?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrytimes View Post
    I heard the Republicans would vote to extend the unemployment benefits if the Democrats would vote to keep the Bush's tax cuts at the same level for all and not to raise taxes on only the rich. Doesn't sound that hard to me and that the Democrats are just as much in blame.
    So we're going to pay out more extra benefits and collect less revenue at the same time. I know what I want for Christmas:


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    Quote Originally Posted by wingnatic View Post
    how do you say eat crap and die in south korean ?
    쓸모없고 죽을 먹고

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    The tax cuts are part of the reason we have a deficit.
    The reason there is a deficit is because the Government spends more than it takes in.
    Any other explanation is a run around.

    Government should not operate in the red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papasito View Post
    The reason there is a deficit is because the Government spends more than it takes in.
    Any other explanation is a run around.

    Government should not operate in the red.
    Black and white. Plain and simple. Nothing else matters. Ideological Bullshit. And you know it.

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