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    What's next? Ban walking?

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    From Coloradodaily.com



    The city of Black Hawk banned cyclists from most of its streets in January, but the deed went largely unnoticed until earlier this month, when the first cyclists were ticketed for riding their bikes through town.
    Black Hawk's city manager, Mike Copp, told the Denver Post that the ban was enacted for safety reasons -- the town's narrow streets didn't leave enough room for buses and trucks to give bikes the mandatory 3 feet while passing without sending vehicles into the lane of oncoming traffic.

    Read more here.

    I see the words "most streets" - not "all streets" - and also "safety reasons". But the biking activists don't want to discuss that, they want to hold protests and whip up some fury and outrage!

    I don't think they "have a crank to stand on", but that's just my two cents worth.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeg View Post
    From Coloradodaily.com




    Read more here.

    I see the words "most streets" - not "all streets" - and also "safety reasons". But the biking activists don't want to discuss that, they want to hold protests and whip up some fury and outrage!

    I don't think they "have a crank to stand on", but that's just my two cents worth.


    And yours isn't worth two cents, Cranky. Talk about trying to whip up some fury and outrage, you certainly aren't attempting a fair and open discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1KielsonDrive View Post
    And yours isn't worth two cents, Cranky. Talk about trying to whip up some fury and outrage, you certainly aren't attempting a fair and open discussion.
    My comments about the bicycle activists were based on the reporting about the protest that was organized by "Bicycle Colorado". From the original article:

    More than 100 bicyclists from across Colorado gathered at the State Capitol Tuesday evening to protest the city of Black Hawk's bike ban.....
    Bicycle Colorado sponsored Tuesday evening's protest. State Senators Greg Brophy [[R-Wray) and Chris Romer [[D-Denver) spoke out at the protest and threatened to file a lawsuit against Black Hawk if the ban was not overturned.
    "You can not ban us! And if you do, we will sue you!" Brophy shouted to the crowd.
    Sounds to me like the biking activists [[Bicycle Colorado) made angry and threatening comments during their staged protest. If they made any comments acknowledging safety concerns [[narrow and congested streets), it went unreported in the article.

    My "two cents worth" simply expressed my opinion that if they sued, I didn't think they would get very far.

    And for noting this I am accused of not attempting a fair and open discussion? I realize that this is the "Non-Detroit" side of the forum, but still, instead of the childish name calling, how about giving us a smidgen of original thought from that apparently superior intellect of yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeg View Post
    My comments about the bicycle activists were based on the reporting about the protest that was organized by "Bicycle Colorado". From the original article:

    Sounds to me like the biking activists [[Bicycle Colorado) made angry and threatening comments during their staged protest. If they made any comments acknowledging safety concerns [[narrow and congested streets), it went unreported in the article.

    My "two cents worth" simply expressed my opinion that if they sued, I didn't think they would get very far.

    And for noting this I am accused of not attempting a fair and open discussion? I realize that this is the "Non-Detroit" side of the forum, but still, instead of the childish name calling, how about giving us a smidgen of original thought from that apparently superior intellect of yours?
    If your intent was merely to report the story, I mistook your intentions for commentary. In that case, I apologize. As far as my 'superior intellect', I've never been accused of that. Thanks for mentioning it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeg View Post
    If they made any comments acknowledging safety concerns [[narrow and congested streets), it went unreported in the article.
    Empirical evidence has shown time and again that narrow and congested streets are actually safer than "wider and wide-open" streets, and lead to both lower speeds and less instance of collisions.

    "Narrow and congested" as you've used it is just code for "OH MY GOD WE CAN'T DRIVE 55!!! GET THESE FUCKING BICYCLES OUT OF OUR DAMNED WAY, ALREADY!"

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