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    firstandten wrote, "I know my friend Oladub would disagree but capitalism without controls is too blame for many of our economic problems. But that doesn't mean socialism is too blame, for what ? How ? Thats what I mean about dumbing down textbooks with right wing rhetoric. If you put these words out there... Socialism, Communism and Facism. I bet the dumbed down readers of these books would use those words interchangablity when in fact those concepts are very different."
    Over on the Mugabecare thread, your are citing magical numbers [["all you have to do is believe" -BO) to justify a corporatist health care plan which is the polite term for economic facism. Indeed, it is a good example of capitalism with controls - hiring 16,500 extra health care workers at the IRS, for starters, to deal with the extra paperwork. I do hope that the new text books will accurately portray both the Democrat and Republican parties as being corporatist promoting entities but doubt it. I am all for certain socialist programs, especially at the local level, like schools, roads, and public libraries when they are proven to be the cheapest way of delivering such services to everyone. I even would support states adopting Ontario's provincial health care plan lock, stock, and barrel because it would reduce per capita costs by 40% and even reduce what governments are now spending, pre-Mugabecare, in the US. Even from a capitalist or small government viewpoint, the reduction of government spending in such a system would result in more private capital available for other things and less government. Unfortunately, you and Democrats are substituting this corporatist, not socialist, monstrosity at the federal level.
    Last edited by oladub; March-19-10 at 09:40 AM. Reason: added name

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