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    Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
    Postings from those sites are not proof of anything but your gullibility. What you are asking is akin to asking me prove the earth is round because a foil hat flat earther posted that it's not.
    In other words you cannot dispute what I posted,so you resort to personal and link attacks because that is all you have.

    My guess is you are still struggling to figure out why Trump is your president.

    It was nice of you to edit your original post,at least you had some kind of reply that could lead to a actual discussion.

    The point you are missing or maybe refusing to see,is the policies of the past and how it shaped up to where we are today with the likes of Iran and Korea.Agreed it is much easier to say Trump sucks instead of actually understanding.

    The Soviet Union collapses.

    In the collapse they just walked away from all these break away countries leaving them fully loaded with nuclear and conventional weapons.

    The thinking was it would have been to easy for a corrupt government to sell the weapons and even more so the nuclear war heads to not the right people.

    Think about it,the Ukraine had 2000 nuclear weapons stockpiled alone.

    So a agreement was reached where the breakaway countries would give up thier nukes and weapon stockpiles and they were assured by Russia that there would be no military action towards them.

    It was backed up by the United States with the understanding that we would support those countries if Russia became aggressive.

    They gave up thier nukes and to take it even further,Obama pushed for the destruction of their conventional weapons,knowing full well if the weapons were removed they would have no means to protect themselves military wise.

    So they literally disarmed Crimea and the Ukraine based on Russia saying they would not bother them.

    What happened? Russia walks in and takes Crimea and then goes after the Ukraine.

    Now we have Iran and Korea saying screw you we are going to keep nukes.

    Can you blame them?

    That is why Trump tore up the Iran agreement,all it did was hold the United States to its deal while allowing or trusting Russia and Iran to stick to their deal.

    Iran is not beholden to anybody but Iran?whereas the United States backs a lot of countries and if we do not keep our word they will get scared and Join who ever they think can protect them the best.

    Trump tore up the agreement in order to leave an out,we do not have to break our word now if Iran gets out of control,we can take action.

    He also tore up the agreement because why should the United States stand alone in policing the world.

    That is what NATO is for and other countries can kick in also because if somebody starts throwing nukes about,it will effect the world as a whole.

    It worked and the last 3 years the other countries have been stepping up to the plate and helping.

    A world police force should have a world police force and Trump has in essence forced the other countries to have some skin in the game.

    You know how the Ukraine fought the Russians? Groups of people that were farmers,shopkeepers,carpenters and anybody else that could pick up a weapon.

    They went up against the might of the Russians and their fully outfitted professional soldiers that had tanks,airplanes,heavy guns.

    They did not flee and become refugees,they picked up a weapon and died defending their freedom and their country,and the best Obama could Do was give Russia the okay and throw a few humvevees thier way after making damn sure they had no means to fight in the first place?

    Obama systematically set the stage for Russia to take Crimea and the Ukraine and then gave Russia his blessing.

    Why,when the whole entire objective of The United States for the last 200 years was the spread of democracy across the world and ones ability to have the freedom of choice,why would he help Russia in aggression and achieving their goals of spreading communism?

    You guys say Trump is a threat to democracy?

    Another long post but Bloomberg is no different,New York city had a constitution that stated no mayor can serve more then two terms.

    Bloomberg changed it so he could run a third term,pretty much the same thing Chavez did to gain power in Venezuela.

    The whole impeachment charade was about damage control,New no corrupt president takes power in the Ukraine and the corrupted ones with the dirty secrets disappear into the shadows.

    The message sent was,if we can go after the president of The United States what do you think will happen to you?
    Last edited by Richard; February-19-20 at 03:32 PM.

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