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    Quote Originally Posted by 401don View Post
    Why can't the Federal or State gov't issue an id with a number/stamp that allows undocumented individuals to identify themselves? It's then up to Federal, State and Local gov'ts to decide what these individuals will be allowed to obtain with it. The number would be identifiable on the Driver's License, etc. I really don't see the issue.
    The Obama administration did under the DACA program,you got a SS number for work,ID etc. with the understanding that they would follow the path to citizenship.Not many did.

    It was a temporary program put in place in order to kick the can down the road without actually doing anything.

    The program expired.

    He did it by useing executive order because if the federal government deems somebody in the country as illegals they cannot very well be providing assistance to them,they would be breaking the very laws that they are tasked to enforce.

    Illegals are wary about being placed on federal lists and the states that have allowed illegals to obtain identification have given them thier word that they will not provide those lists to the federal government.

    The use of the term undocumented came about with DACA or the children brought into this country illegally by thier parents.

    It was an attempt to separate those here illegally,their parents and ones that overstayed thier visas or snuck across the border from the ones viewed as they did not have a choice as a child when they were brought here.

    But most kicked the can down the road after being presented with a kick the can down the road program ,and here we are.

    Before 9-11 an illegal could get drivers license,bank accounts with no SS number a job etc and have all the perks of a citizen,so there was no incentive to actually become a citizen,why buy the cow when you can have the milk for free.

    Every President elect and senate elect and congress elect in the past campaigned on illegal immigration and the deportations but once they get into office they quickly forget about the mission they promised.

    Sense the 1920s green card holders with felonies and illegals with felonies were always the priority for mass deportations,they have limited resources to deport but unlimited resources to support the illegals.

    Most of the states that issued ID cards caught flak/law suits from the immigration groups because they used to supply ID that was special marked to identify the status was illegal.

    They used the reference of Hitler marking the Jews for easy reference.

    So most states just provide a drivers license like everybody else has,they still put restrictions on them but if the little bar code reader is passed over a magnet or becomes defective it becomes a null point.

    The easiest/cheaper route would be to secure the border and offer a path to citizenship then deport those who do not wish to take advantage of.

    Every politician on both sides in the past has campaigned on that very route but never did it,the current president campaigned on the same thing and was the only one to actually start doing it,and was called a racist.

    So now no need to worry about drivers license,round them all up and deport them useing the current laws on the books and then start over with a proper system.

    The problem is most of those illegals are not highly educated and work experienced,so you get a flood of that category and it does drive down wages for the under employed.

    We have quotas for every country based on skill levels,and non skilled,so we can manage and keep up with the flow,but it appears not to be working.
    Last edited by Richard; August-06-19 at 05:09 PM.

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