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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Visitor View Post
    Roger, I will gain the self-discipline to ignore you; but before that, let me indulge myself.

    First, in your response to assorted posts above, you just changed the topic rather than address issues on which you have clearly been bested in debate.

    That speaks to your hero, Mr. Trump, who simply won't admit his mistakes and/or lies and continues on oblivious to the consequences for himself, his administration or his country.

    Likewise, if you can't be adult enough to admit you were wrong, at least learn to be quiet.

    Yes, you have the constitutional right to make a fool of yourself; that doesn't mean you should exercise it.

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    Second, on the earlier raised subject of my apparent jack-ass-ness over being put off by people who are both under-educated and racist.........

    Please note, I did not single out under-educated on its own. There is no evil in not being 'book smart'. I know some incredibly bright people who didn't even finish High School. You're just not one of them.

    That said, I don't care if you have years of formal education or how many multi-syllabic words you can use in single sentence, in context.

    What I do care about is people who pontificate [[which you do)........

    [[that by the way, that means to express one's opinions in a way considered annoyingly pompous and dogmatic.)


    ... who pontificate and who clearly have no clue what they are talking about. You are under-educated formally and informally on the subject, yet speak as if you were an expert.

    Please note, to this point, I have not harped on your endless spelling mistakes, [[secession, not succession), nor your complete misuse of words [[you can't have an embassy when you are not a government)

    But I am growing very tired of the fact you don't know the facts, but insist you do.

    No matter how hard you try, 2 + 2 will not be 18

    So while I will never endeavour to humiliate someone because they lack an education; I will now feel free to humiliate and correct at will the errors, misnomers, non-sequiturs that you bring forth.

    Not because you lack education but because you imagine you understand, when you are the epitome of ignorance.

    Fit the bill you will be called out.

    Want respect; EARN IT!.

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    Lastly,

    I will gladly challenge the assertion that the night march w/folks wearing Nazi symbols is in fact protected by the first amendment

    Everyone knows there are limits on free speech.

    The most obvious and frequently referred to example is your right to yell 'FIRE' in a crowded theatre when there isn't one.

    You don't have that right.

    There is a reason at law for that. Its not simply that it would disrupt the performance, or inconvenience the patrons; that is offensive but might be considered a civil matter were that the extent of it.

    In fact, such an act is considered criminal; for the reason that patron may in panic, exit the theatre in a rush, and in the course of doing so, it may happen that someone is trampled, possibly even to death.

    That can get you charged w/manslaughter or even criminally-negligent homicide.

    So how does this apply to a march.

    Well, if you march wearing a symbol that conveys your willingness and desire to kill, for reasons of race, religion, physical ability, etc. Then maybe you trigger a panic response. An understandable feeling of fear and anger that may result in someone's death. You knew, or ought to know as a reasonable person that that that might be, the result.

    In addition, you might also be riling people on your own 'side' w/hatred, anger, and rage, such that they lose control of their emotions and do both illegal and violent things.

    Things their attire seem to condone or encourage.

    That comes pretty close, in my judgement to a wanton breach of the peace.

    If what you truly wanted was to suggest that a statue be left standing; that you have the right to express, whether I find it agreeable or not.

    But you get to do so wearing 'normal' clothes, w/o slogans or symbols associated w/race war or violence.

    You can express such a view respectfully.

    That was not what the fascists and racists were doing.

    That was a show of power; and by definition, a threat to others.

    I would argue strongly, NOT protected by the first amendment.

    So, I guess you lost that self discipline pretty quick, Hugh.

    Do you even read what you post,you do this whole self righteous speal about presenting facts and links and when they are posted you neither read them or understand them.

    [Qoute] Please note, to this point, I have not harped on your endless spelling mistakes, [[secession, not succession), nor your complete misuse of words [[you can't have an embassy when you are not a government)

    Those are your words and an example how you comment on others postings without even reading the content.

    Those were not a misuse of words by me and if you had attempted to even read the link that I posted it would have been clear is was quoting the article.

    Did you read the link?Silly me,clearly not.

    But in your rush to feel superior to all the underlings in life you saw what you wanted to see.

    Sorry to disappoint you but,this is a discussion and honestly I do not care one way or another weather you approve of what I say,how I spell it or how it is formatted.I bet you are real fun at parties.

    And least of all weather you respect my opinion or not because bascialy one learns when they mature that there are certain types of people that you associate and others really do not matter and it becomes clear pretty quick that inside they are really not a nice person.

    You do seem to like me though because you to have the need to comment on my shortcomings,so either you think I am okay or you are one of those who needs to feel better then everybody else and I am your good deed for the day.

    I believe this site has a block function and probably a how to page for its use please feel free to indulge yourself and add me to the top of the list.

    I find it pretty sad that supposed adults get so blinded by thier own hatred,But are quick to condone others hatred.

    And after all of that writing you still did not answer my question,but you never do anyways so no surprise.

    The freedom that you have to call a standing United States president names is the same freedom that you wish to remove from others because you do not agree with them.

    Then you try and provide justification as to why it is okay to do so.

    They are racist and should not exist.They do not belong in this country.They are nazis,kill the nazis.Anybody that does not agree to kill them or ban them from the United States is also a racist of the same ilk and let's get the public pumped up to agree.They are the reason for our past pain and suffering if we get rid of them then everything will be okay and we will live happily ever after.

    You do realize that is the exact same way the nazi party took power,remove the word nazi and add the words,Jews,gypsies,and who ever else does not fit the mold.

    Walk down that path and when you speak out and call a president or leader a name,they do not tell you to be quiet,you just disappear in the middle of the night.

    Actually go to places like Korea,Russia,Venezuela,Cuba and others,speak your mind in public,or within earshot of anybody,with negative words towards the government and guaranteed one of two things will happen,either you will be shot dead on the spot or imprisioned with no trial.

    There no difference between walking around with ones arm up in the air talking shit and one that wants to give up the rights of everybody to eliminate the few.

    I view both as a threat to the United States because they are one in the same.

    But hey I cannot spell so what do my thoughts matter anyways.

    My challenge would be is for those who do not agree with me is take it to the newspaper and march to repeal those rights so you can deal with those hateful nazis once and for all.

    Put up or shut up is what that is called.

    But nobody will do that because everybody knows that the newspapers are protected by that same free speech and the same rights that everybody else has and if they give up those,then it becomes a government run publication.

    But I am not the smartest rock in the box because history has already showed us the ramifications of what happens with that train of thought everybody already knows this so to me anyways the only reason for the kick back is because people are ready to give up those rights.

    So the end game is the division of this country and the implementation of a socialist dictatorship.

    Well, I wish you guys luck with that one,take that step and the nazis are going to seem like little angels.
    Last edited by Richard; August-17-17 at 11:53 PM.

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