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    It is categorically untrue that "violence-oriented clubs have been downtown for decades." professional crime studies held that downtown was the safest district in Detroit with little petty crime and real violence nearly unheard of. This as recently as four years ago.

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    Thanks to you city folks for helping keep this particular thread on topic.

    As a newer resident here, I'm hoping to become part of the conversation working to improve life in the neighborhood. I'm sure there are lots of great folks working hard to that end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joesmithrocks View Post
    Thanks to you city folks for helping keep this particular thread on topic.

    As a newer resident here, I'm hoping to become part of the conversation working to improve life in the neighborhood. I'm sure there are lots of great folks working hard to that end.
    You might find it helpful to invest in a police radio just to better assess the situation. Beware though that at first it might seem like there is far more crime than before. This is just the understandable psychological effect of suddenly becoming aware of more crimes than before.

    In Michigan it's now legal for civilians to operate a police radio in their own car. [[Certain common-sense restrictions apply.) I wonder if such a radio would serve as a deterrent or would it just become something else to steal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joesmithrocks View Post
    Thanks to you city folks for helping keep this particular thread on topic.

    As a newer resident here, I'm hoping to become part of the conversation working to improve life in the neighborhood. I'm sure there are lots of great folks working hard to that end.
    I think you're perfectly within your rights to be concerned about this. I've just moved downtown myself and have similar concerns.

    The only solution is for more of us who are good people to move downtown, and to push out the thugs. There are certain businesses, clubs, and establishments that cater to the drugs-and-crime population. Replace them with the stuff that appeals to young professionals and crime will definitely go down. Trust me, as the relative of some truly ghetto and trifling folks, they do NOT feel comfortable in areas that contain mostly what they consider [[sorry) "white" or "bougie" establishments. Because no one is going thugging at REI or Whole Foods, for the same reason they're not doing it on the Avalon block.

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