Yes I said Pine Knob, stick that in yer Kern Block
http://www.laobserved.com/biz/2011/0...aire_to_bu.php
Yes I said Pine Knob, stick that in yer Kern Block
http://www.laobserved.com/biz/2011/0...aire_to_bu.php
I'm pretty sure that Brooks Patterson will be able to sleep tonight.
I think this will end up being good news for Michigan [[an ex native)... but not necessarily good news for those who hoped for a dual downtown arena.
C'est la vie.....
Oh Brooks was happy. He's tickled pink that the Pistons are staying in Auburn Hills and though I would prefer them in Detroit, so be it. I will be still a Pistons fan though I admit they aren't peaking my interest at this time.
Yep, he said so. If I were an Oakland County resident, I'd be a litte concerned if he had said he was bummed because it would have been nice to see the Pistons playing at a new stadium downtown.
Gores also owns a home on Grosse Ile....
IF the Pistons were playing at a new stadium downtown, What other events will be held at the Palace? Monster truck rallies?? Motocross?? Rodeo?? Indoor Superfair Canivals?? Shrine Circus?? A petting zoo??
Yes, great. Let's keep doing things as we've been doing and expect different results.
I just love Auburn Hills because it is the iconic, symbolic, economic center of our region, and I love to walk to bars from the Palace before and after the game.
The good people of Oakland County can continue to live, work, and play as if the City of Detroit never existed. Of course when they leave the region they will proudly tell people they are from "Detroit" as Detroit continues to crumble but they can go sleep soundly in Oakland County.
Maybe every single one of our little feifdom suburbs should have a major league stadium, so none can complain about "poaching." Who needs a strong central city at the core of our region? Not us.
I didn't realize the people in Oakland County had any say in the matter. They certainly didn't ask me for my opinion.The good people of Oakland County can continue to live, work, and play as if the City of Detroit never existed. Of course when they leave the region they will proudly tell people they are from "Detroit" as Detroit continues to crumble but they can go sleep soundly in Oakland County.
Well said. I get upset that I have to travel through Oakland County to get to Detroit. I hate that county.Yes, great. Let's keep doing things as we've been doing and expect different results.
I just love Auburn Hills because it is the iconic, symbolic, economic center of our region, and I love to walk to bars from the Palace before and after the game.
The good people of Oakland County can continue to live, work, and play as if the City of Detroit never existed. Of course when they leave the region they will proudly tell people they are from "Detroit" as Detroit continues to crumble but they can go sleep soundly in Oakland County.
Maybe every single one of our little feifdom suburbs should have a major league stadium, so none can complain about "poaching." Who needs a strong central city at the core of our region? Not us.
DetroitPole, I don't think a basketball franchise has much to do with building a "strong central city" anyways.
Where the Pistons play likely has little to no impact on regional development patterns.
I don't think it does either but there is a reason that they are called the Detroit Pistons. Maybe they should rename them to the Oakland County Pistons or Auburn Hills Pistons, that would suit them better.
Disagree.
I think the concern about the middle eastern buyers was that they were connected to the area in any way. They could have been a group from Nebraska with no local ties, and the same fears would have been displayed. The biggest concern among fans [[without realizing perhaps how dumb it would be to move) was to keep the Pistons in SE Michigan. There have always been rumors about an NBA franschise in Vegas, and as soon as a franchise goes up for sale that discussion would usually ensue. Just the usual paranoia.
I didn't sense any xenophobia in the media. At any rate, the Pistons in fact did end up being sold to a buyer with Middle Eastern origins. Gores was born in Israel, and i believe is of Lebanese descent.
According to his Wikipedia article:
"Tom Gores was born in Nazareth, Palestine, to a Lebanese mother and a Greek father."
This doesn't of course preclude his being Jewish, since there are both Lebanese and Greek Jews, but given the location of his birth and that mixture of parents it's considerably more likely that he's of Christian descent. A Bill Shea Crain's column from last August discussing his bid for the Pistons and his views on the Israel-Palestine conflict identifies him as having been "raised Lebanese Catholic" [[see the update at the bottom of the article).
Last edited by EastsideAl; April-12-11 at 04:13 PM.
Where the Pistons play has a lot to do with a strong central city. 800 thousand people per year running around a central city has a lot to do with a strong central city. Just as much as AAA moving to Dearborn and taking their employees. As much as Detroit College of Law becoming the Michigan State Law School and not having 400 students there everyday. Many prominent schools have their professional schools [[law, dental, medical) in a large city nearby. As much Channel 56 moving to Wixom and taking their people. Even the pissing match between Karmanos and Ilitch about the junior Red wings was a bad deal for the central city. 3000 people times 40 games floating around downtown was good for the CBD. 800 thousand people per year helps the light rail when it appears. I'm glad they're staying in Michigan but I hope they move to the city if only because it's a pain in the butt to get there and I only live 20 miles away.
What I love is how the Pistons players, knowing [[I'm sure) that He was attending the
game, Monday night against Cleveland....couldn't even 'get it up' for their new boss.
What a lackluster performance, as was MANY of their games this season.
Now, even though things in the organization were in turmoil, since Mr. Davidson
passed away, under the bullshit nonauspicious watch of K. Davidson, you'd think
they would care a little bit. I mean, they ARE being employed, and they ARE making pretty good money. That's actually, a lot to be said in the current economical environment we find ourselves in.
It's like they could care less.
And the little performance by Charlie Villanoava.....Just beautiful dude!!!!
How embarrassing.
Grow up.
I don't think sports clubs do much to improve a city.
We've had downtown arenas for the past 100 years or so; first Olympia Arena and then Joe Louis.
I'm too young to have seen Olympia, but the area was supposedly a wreck during much of its existence. As for Joe Louis, the primary beneficiaries appear to be parking lot operators and maybe the People Mover.
I have never seen a downtown "saved" by professional sports. They may be a modest net positive, but I don't see the revitalization.
90% of the folks attending a sports event just drive, park, and walk in. For the remaining 10%, some bars and restaurants will benefit, though those are heavily cash businesses, and there's probably limited tax revenue impact.
I do think, however, that it makes sense for the Red Wings and Pistons to play in the same arena. From an efficiency standpoint [[and to guard the public purse), there should be some sort of coordination, especially if any public monies are in play.
The Olympia wasn't downtown, it was located at Grand River and McGraw. I too am too young to remember Olympia but I do remember when it was still standing, it was demolished around 1986 or 87. I agree that sporting venues don't really save urban areas. Actually in Cleveland didn't Jacobs Field and Gund Arena turn the downtown area around there? I think the Wings and Pistons should be playing in the same arena too, there are many arenas that serve both the NBA and NHL in other cities and do fine. I never understood why the Pistons played outside of Detroit and not in an arena with the Wings.I don't think sports clubs do much to improve a city.
We've had downtown arenas for the past 100 years or so; first Olympia Arena and then Joe Louis.
I'm too young to have seen Olympia, but the area was supposedly a wreck during much of its existence. As for Joe Louis, the primary beneficiaries appear to be parking lot operators and maybe the People Mover.
I have never seen a downtown "saved" by professional sports. They may be a modest net positive, but I don't see the revitalization.
90% of the folks attending a sports event just drive, park, and walk in. For the remaining 10%, some bars and restaurants will benefit, though those are heavily cash businesses, and there's probably limited tax revenue impact.
I do think, however, that it makes sense for the Red Wings and Pistons to play in the same arena. From an efficiency standpoint [[and to guard the public purse), there should be some sort of coordination, especially if any public monies are in play.
Well, when they left the city they were playing in Cobo Arena. When the Palace was built, they would have had to play in the Joe in order to share a stadium. Davidson knew that both of those places sucked compared to what he was able to build himself. Anybody that decries the Palace can only do so because of its location. The fact is that there are arenas and stadiums built at the same time, heck even five to ten years afterward, which are considered functionally obsolete or have already been demolished. Outside of a location in the city, the only thing the Palace is missing is a good team.
He didn't build his own arena for 10 years after moving the Pistons out of Detroit though. He had the Pistons play in the Silverdome for 10 years, don't you think it would of been a better idea to play at the Joe rather than the Silverdome? The Silverdome was too big for football and especially for basketball. It's not like he built his own arena right away after leaving Detroit, he made the Pistons play at the Silverdome for 10 years, that was a joke. Actually for me the Palace is closer to my house than downtown Detroit is but I'd still rather have the Pistons play downtown. The Palace is a nice venue but it's really in the middle of nowhere.Well, when they left the city they were playing in Cobo Arena. When the Palace was built, they would have had to play in the Joe in order to share a stadium. Davidson knew that both of those places sucked compared to what he was able to build himself. Anybody that decries the Palace can only do so because of its location. The fact is that there are arenas and stadiums built at the same time, heck even five to ten years afterward, which are considered functionally obsolete or have already been demolished. Outside of a location in the city, the only thing the Palace is missing is a good team.
I hope Gores moves the Pistons to Detroit someday. Who cares what L. Brooks Patterson has to say anyways? Oakland County doesn't deserve a major league sports team because there are no major cities in the county to put them in, Detroit is the major city in the area and should be the home to all four sports teams.Where the Pistons play has a lot to do with a strong central city. 800 thousand people per year running around a central city has a lot to do with a strong central city. Just as much as AAA moving to Dearborn and taking their employees. As much as Detroit College of Law becoming the Michigan State Law School and not having 400 students there everyday. Many prominent schools have their professional schools [[law, dental, medical) in a large city nearby. As much Channel 56 moving to Wixom and taking their people. Even the pissing match between Karmanos and Ilitch about the junior Red wings was a bad deal for the central city. 3000 people times 40 games floating around downtown was good for the CBD. 800 thousand people per year helps the light rail when it appears. I'm glad they're staying in Michigan but I hope they move to the city if only because it's a pain in the butt to get there and I only live 20 miles away.
Congratulations to my fellow MSU alum Tom Gores. It's too bad the Pistons won't be moving back downtown for the foreseeable future, but at least they now finally have the ownership problem resolved, and presumably this also helps the cash flow problem that has purportedly been holding them back sine Bill Davidson died. So, we can have some hope that things will begin to move in a positive direction on the floor and in the front office.
That is, if a lockout doesn't stop the whole NBA dead next season.
Thanks for the update. I had heard on the radio that he belonged, at some point, to a Jewish Fraternity with Bill Davidson.
personally, I think the Palace is easily a top-10 arena. My only problem with it is simply it's location ! with $4.00 gas here I don't think a fan from cities like Canton, Westland, and other downriver communities will make the drive to the Palace like they would downtown.
while I am happy that Gores bought the Pistons, I honestly do not think the Palace is the long-term answer. I do see them moving downtown, just not anytime soon
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