713,000

[BrushStart]

That's the official number, according to Channel 7.

[313WX]

Nasty, so now we're the 17th largest city in the country and the 4th largest city in the midwest.

[Ray1936]

Pitiful. Absolutely pitiful. Down from just under 2m in fifty years.

[iheartthed]

That's astounding.

[Vox]

I was pretty close, only off by 9000 or so. On the other thread, that is.

[Mind field]

I was pretty close, only off by 9000 or so. On the other thread, that is.

I was closer, off by 2,000. What do i win?

[Detroitnerd]

I was closer, off by 2,000. What do i win?

An all-expenses-paid trip to fabulous downtown Detroit...

[Mind field]

An all-expenses-paid trip to fabulous downtown Detroit...

It would be a hell of a lot better than where i am now in Texas.

[mikefmich]

I was closer, off by 2,000. What do i win?

A parade in front of everyone on Vernor Ave. East, followed by dinner with Kwame. Hope you like starchy stuff.

[Detroitnerd]

I await the other numbers for the metro, as they'll have much more important information. We knew this number was going to be psychologically important. Let's get down to the real nitty-gritty and soon.

[Novine]

County numbers:

http://www.freep.com/article/2011032...s-numbers-2010

[Vox]

Why wait? Oakland county 2000 census 1,194,156 in 2010 1,202,362. Macomb County 2000 census 788,149 in 2010 840,978. Wayne County 2000 census 2,061,161 in 2010, 1,820,584

[bartock]

Why wait? Oakland county 2000 census 1,194,156 in 2010 1,202,362. Macomb County 2000 census 788,149 in 2010 840,978. Wayne County 2000 census 2,061,161 in 2010, 1,820,584

So, it appears that roughly 80% of Wayne County's loss between 2000-2010 was Detroit population loss. Not sure how that will be taken, but it may be good for inner-ring burbs and the prospects of redeveloping the core.


I believe the official Metro Detroit includes St. Clair, Lapeer and Livingston Counties. Totalled up, 4,296,250 by 2010 census figures.

[313WX]

The kicker here is the increase in Macomb and Oakland Coutny is directly correlated with the decline in Wayne County [[Detroit). The region didn't actually grow, in fact the tri-country decreased by 140k. So yeah, and the beat goes on...

[Detroitnerd]

So, despite modest gains for Oakland and Macomb counties, the region as a whole has shrunk. Yes?

[bartock]

So, despite modest gains for Oakland and Macomb counties, the region as a whole has shrunk. Yes?

Region's population has shrunk, demographics in a lot of places have changed and are changing.

[rbdetsport]

This is preposterous. I hope they challenge that figure. I feel that is extremely low.

[Vox]

This is preposterous. I hope they challenge that figure. I feel that is extremely low.

Spot on, in my opinion. Consider the whole picture, not just Midtown and some neighborhoods that have people in them. I guess that if there is an undercount, I would blame the citizens of Detroit for not being cooperative with the census takers.

[JohnnyFreddy]

Spot on, in my opinion. Consider the whole picture, not just Midtown and some neighborhoods that have people in them. I guess that if there is an undercount, I would blame the citizens of Detroit for not being cooperative with the census takers.

I agree. I personally know at least four different households which refused to cooperate
with the census, either for 'privacy' reasons, or, 'mistrust', or,'laziness'.......
....not realizing, or caring, that representation in Washington is at stake here, as well as
potential grants or other monies to be had. Civic responsibility has taken a HUGE hit in
our modern times. People don't bother to vote. Census disinterest. Won't shovel their walks,
or mow their lawns, or pick-up litter surrounding their home or neighborhood.
Want to know WHY Detroit is taking such drastic hits. Look around you, the reasons are obvious.

[Det_ard]

This is preposterous. I hope they challenge that figure. I feel that is extremely low.

I don't know, there are a lot of areas that were much fuller in 2000 than they are today. And look at how many former Detroiters now reside in Harper Woods, Eastpointe, Warren, Hazel Park, Madison heights, Ferndale, Oak Park, Southfield, Farmington Hills, West Bloomfield, Canton, etc. There has been a massive outflow that's been confirmed by property managers I've spoken to.

[MikeM]

This is preposterous. I hope they challenge that figure. I feel that is extremely low.

Thanks to everyone last year claiming the census was an invaision of their privacy. Now they'll claim the census data are part of a conspiracy.

[313WX]

And if this is all true about the Metro's numbers, that means we're going to fall from the 11th largest metro area in the country to the 14th largest [[behind Phoenix and San Francisco).

[iheartthed]

And if this is all true about the Metro's numbers, that means we're going to fall from the 11th largest metro area in the country to the 14th largest [[behind Phoenix and San Francisco).

Probably 15th... Behind the Inland Empire, California.

[313WX]

So even despite the sharp decline, in hindsight this is a good thing for Detroit for the fact that the suburbs can't claim they're doing just fine without the city when they're declining as a whole also.

[iheartthed]

So even despite the sharp decline, in hindsight this is a good thing for Detroit for the fact that the suburbs can't claim they're doing just fine without the city when they're declining as a whole also.

I don't think that's something worth gloating about. But clearly this should change the course of the discussion. This isn't just a Detroit problem.