How're the ROADS Near You?!

**Gannon** · March-11-11, 10:47 AM

I drove out to Livonia the other day, exiting the Jefferies at Farmington Road...and had to dash between potholes like I've NEVER seen. Farmington Road down to Hines was like a war zone.

A new friend just told me he's had to buy three tires and two rims in the past three days for family members who've had 'encounters'.

Can we find out if Governor Snyder has any financial interest in anything which may profit from our pain...and also from the solution?!

Just a guess...but it seems the tide of public opinion is turning harshly against him, and thought I'd do my part.

Cheers!

Augustiner · March-11-11, 11:21 AM

We've had a week or so of weather hovering right around 32 degrees, with alternating rain and snow. I'm not exactly a Rick Snyder fan, but I doubt he's sneaking out to Farmington Road in the dead of night with a jackhammer to boost sales of tire companies.

**Hermod** · March-11-11, 11:29 AM

Can't fix it till the freeze-thaw cycle stops and the sub-base dries out.

Buy American · March-11-11, 11:34 AM

Little Mack from 9 Mile to 13 Mile is an obstacle course.

**tarkus** · March-11-11, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Buy American

Little Mack from 9 Mile to 13 Mile is an obstacle course.

Not an obstacle course a new gravel road LOL. Do not drive on this so called road if youlike your car.
So is Frazho from I-94 to Gratiot I was driving in the turn lane to avoid the 2 track ruts in the cement

**milt721** · March-15-11, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by tarkus

Not an obstacle course a new gravel road LOL. Do not drive on this so called road if youlike your car.
So is Frazho from I-94 to Gratiot I was driving in the turn lane to avoid the 2 track ruts in the cement

I can second this. That is the worst road I've seen this spring.

**Gannon** · March-11-11, 11:42 AM

Oh no, it HAS to be Snyder's fault.

You missed 'Public Political Discourse 101', which is a pre-requisite for participating in this discussion.

LOL

**MichiganMan** · March-11-11, 11:58 AM

Dollars to Donuts that the piece of road that Snyder travels with his State Police escort everyday between A2 and Lansing is well plowed and whatever potholes arise, get filled in quickly. To bad our little taxpayer funded Governor's residence in Lansing is too small and he has to commute from his mansion in Superior Township. Now we get to pay for protection at both places. He is such a good dad to be home every night. My boss has a little home in Clawson and drives back to Grand Rapids every weekend to be with his family. He also didn't want to disrupt his children's school activities. I'm sure if he had a driver and a police escort he would have stayed in Grand Rapids and commuted every day.

**Warrenite84** · March-11-11, 12:28 PM

Mound Rd. from 12mile to Hall rd. lots of deep holes-all lanes, and John R. rd. Big Beaver[[16 mile) to Maple [[15 mile).

**Hermod** · March-11-11, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Warrenite84

Mound Rd. from 12mile to Hall rd. lots of deep holes-all lanes, and John R. rd. Big Beaver[[16 mile) to Maple [[15 mile).

Mound Road has always been pothole heaven because of all of the industrial traffic. John R. seems to be the playground for the big double-bottom gravel trucks coming south from the glacial gravel beds north of M-59.

**Gannon** · March-11-11, 04:04 PM

There are some amazing repairs they can do to allow wheels now.

Not sure how the integrity holds up afterward, but there are a few places around.

Many years ago, I crossed paths with a Don Neubauer out of St. Clair Shores doing 'em. His number is [[586) 445-3160.

GUSHI · March-11-11, 08:12 PM

Detroit wheel and tire repairs wheel, they located on 14 bet deq and john r on the troy side

Originally Posted by Gannon

There are some amazing repairs they can do to allow wheels now.

Not sure how the integrity holds up afterward, but there are a few places around.

Many years ago, I crossed paths with a Don Neubauer out of St. Clair Shores doing 'em. His number is [[586) 445-3160.

**Zacha341** · March-12-11, 01:57 AM

Thanks for that info G......

Originally Posted by Gannon

There are some amazing repairs they can do to allow wheels now.

Not sure how the integrity holds up afterward, but there are a few places around.

Many years ago, I crossed paths with a Don Neubauer out of St. Clair Shores doing 'em. His number is [[586) 445-3160.

**Gannon** · March-12-11, 08:37 AM

Nothin' to it, Zacha!

As for the interstate variances, I'd largely forgotten the fun I used to make for myself driving across the country...a trip I used to take four or five times a year.

Each state has its own character, you can immediately know you've crossed a state line even if you missed the big signs, due the quality of the roads or lack thereof.

And law enforcement practices were curious, too, but I digress.

As for these potholes, having Softailrider part of this discussion reminds me that these may be an inconvenience for 4-wheelers...but death to those on motorcycles.

Michigan is a destination state for many interstate rider-tourists. I wonder if, for all the advertising of our fine state as PURE that we don't quickly become PURE HELL for them.

The damn entry rest area inside the Indiana state line has a nice set of flags which repeat Jenny's mantra...PURE...PURE...PURE. As with all initiatives, it appears this one will have unintended effects.

Yuck. NO cheers on this one.

**gazhekwe** · March-11-11, 12:28 PM

I'm in Florida this week. No freeze-thaw thing going on, no potholes to speak of. Some side streets are a little rough, though. I did hit a few good potholes on the way down including in North Carolina. I keep waiting for one of those tires to show some damage.

**Zacha341** · March-11-11, 02:09 PM

Arghh! I caught the pot-hole from HELL yesterday [[3/10/11) at 4:35 PM W I-94, Lodge North exit... that curved exit was full of deep, scattered pot-holes. I tried to do the 'dodge-em' the best I could but fell into a deep pot-hole bending my alloy wheel! I heard they closed the exit for repairs about an hour later. Too bad for me.... to have traveled thru it too early!

Originally Posted by Gannon

I drove out to Livonia the other day, exiting the Jefferies at Farmington Road...and had to dash between potholes like I've NEVER seen. Farmington Road down to Hines was like a war zone.

A new friend just told me he's had to buy three tires and two rims in the past three days for family members who've had 'encounters'.

Can we find out if Governor Snyder has any financial interest in anything which may profit from our pain...and also from the solution?!

Just a guess...but it seems the tide of public opinion is turning harshly against him, and thought I'd do my part.

Cheers!

GUSHI · March-11-11, 02:36 PM

Knock on wood, no pothole wheel/tire damage this year. Last year costed me 500.00. I just try to avoid potholes when possible.

**Zacha341** · March-11-11, 02:50 PM

I'd never damaged a wheel in all my years--only a tire or two. I am not replacing the alloy wheel [[at $100+)... I'll just be three nice allows and on 'junky' yet functioning wheel. Car old, so I guess it can be a bit mitch-matched. LOL!

Originally Posted by GUSHI

Knock on wood, no pothole wheel/tire damage this year. Last year costed me 500.00. I just try to avoid potholes when possible.

**Zimm** · March-11-11, 02:53 PM

no major complaints here. i certainly appreciate that ferndale keeps its roads in better condition than most of the communities around here. potholes are scarce. i did narrowly miss a huge pothole on northbound woodward just south of 14 the other day, and campbell between 10 and 12 is getting crappier by the day, but royal oak's roads have been maintained poorly for the decade i've lived around here, so i'm always on the lookout when i'm passing through.

**Gannon** · March-11-11, 04:06 PM

He probably at least VOTED for Snyder.

<snicker>

**DetroitPlanner** · March-11-11, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Gannon

He probably at least VOTED for Snyder.

<snicker>

The underfunding of Transportation in this state predates Snyder by 50 years.

**Hermod** · March-11-11, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by DetroitPlanner

The underfunding of Transportation in this state predates Snyder by 50 years.

Look, Michigan is going to have potholes every winter. It is just the nature of the beast. The freeze/thaw cycle in southeastern Michigan is just rough on roads. All you can do is just keepfixing them [[keeping trucks off them would help the most).

GUSHI · March-11-11, 04:57 PM

We need to stop using salt. Torontos roads arenice

Originally Posted by Hermod

Look, Michigan is going to have potholes every winter. It is just the nature of the beast. The freeze/thaw cycle in southeastern Michigan is just rough on roads. All you can do is just keepfixing them [[keeping trucks off them would help the most).

**softailrider** · March-11-11, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Hermod

Look, Michigan is going to have potholes every winter. It is just the nature of the beast. The freeze/thaw cycle in southeastern Michigan is just rough on roads. All you can do is just keepfixing them [[keeping trucks off them would help the most).

Sorry, I don't buy that one. Drive through Ohio or Indiana. The weather is the same, the roads are better.

**Zimm** · March-12-11, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by softailrider

Sorry, I don't buy that one. Drive through Ohio or Indiana. The weather is the same, the roads are better.

+1 on that

anyone here ever been to iowa? they suffer temperature extremes and swings there that make us look pathetic. yet when you drive a newly paved stretch of road out there, it's like glass. no subtle waves, no irregularities to the pitch. nothing. absolutely smooth as glass, as if no suspension is necessary. i've never driven on a single stretch of fleshly paved road in michigan that could hold a candle to the quality of the roadwork done in iowa. i'm not sure if it's the quality of materials, specs of the build, or the quality of the workers doing the job [[personally i suspect all 3) but roads there are simply better built than anything we have here-by a wide margin.

i do disagree with iowa's use [[or lack thereof) of guardrails-and substitution of those wire and i-beam things in places that truly need guardrails, but that's a completely different conversation...