New Estimates of Detroit's Population

[renf]

This morning the Census Bureau released their findings from the 2009 American Community Survey showing social, demographic and economic characteristics for all geographic units of 65,000 or more. Data are readily available on the Census Bureau website. There are not the results of Census 2010.

Change in the city of Detroit is shown below [[Populations in thousands)
2000 2009 % Change
Total Population 946 910 - 3.8 %
Non-Hispanic White 99 121 + 21.9 %
Non-Hispanic Black 765 690 - 9.8 %
Non-Hispanic Asian 9 15 + 73.4 %
Hispanic 49 67 + 36.3 %
Multiple race & Other 24 17 - 26.8 %

Similar data are available for all other major areas of the state including most
suburbs.

[Meddle]

950K?


Doubtful.

[Hermod]

950K?


Doubtful.

Prepping you up for census bureau "statistical smoothing" in the 2010 census data to hide just how much major cities have lost population so that the cities can retain their congressional districts in the redistricting and their ability to apply for federal funding.

[Fnemecek]

950K?


Doubtful.

946K was the 2000 number. The 2009 number is 910K

[professorscott]

To be precise, 910,848, and they slice and dice it dozens of different ways.

[Lowell]

If that shows up in the actual census, it is very encouraging news. A 4% loss may match the state's situation.

What is interesting is the ethnic mix changes. I would be interested in the trends in median income.

[Vox]

I can't imagine where those numbers came from.

Here's the real numbers.

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet...select&-format=

[bailey]

There is no way that Detroit only lost 4% over the last 10 years. One only has to look around to know this.

[Ray1936]

Was just reading the other thread about Grand Rapids. Wouldn't it be a hoot if GR ended up with a greater population than Detroit? Of course, the GR metro area still couldn't hold a candle to the Detroit metro area.

[jt1]

[quote=Ray1936;185701]Wouldn't it be a hoot if GR ended up with a greater population than Detroit? [quote]

Why would that be a hoot?

[Vox]

There's something seriously wrong with these numbers. Take a look at this comparison chart at the census bureau.

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet...-redoLog=false

And their population estimates/

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet...9&-context=gct

[MikeM]

There's something seriously wrong with these numbers. Take a look at this comparison chart at the census bureau.

I'm not sure what you're looking at, but the data in the first link starts with the number of households, not population.

[Vox]

I'm not sure what you're looking at, but the data in the first link starts with the number of households, not population.

First link in households, can you explain a 53,000 increase in household estimates from 2008 to 2009? A 130,000 increase in population?

Where the second link only lists a 2000 person deficit?

[Meddle]

I'm pretty sure there are more than 915 Asians and 4,967 Hispanics. Or are there 0s missing from the ends of those figures?

[MikeM]

I'm pretty sure there are more than 915 Asians and 4,967 Hispanics. Or are there 0s missing from the ends of those figures?

Can no one read anymore?

Change in the city of Detroit is shown below [[Populations in thousands)

[professorscott]

While browsing the census bureau site, I also find Wayne County slipped below 2M a few years ago and continues to slowly lose people; Oakland County is essentially flat since 2000 [[up 1%); Macomb County is up 5.5% since 2000.

[313WX]

It's still very possible more people are doubling down due to the mortgage crisis.

[RO_Resident]

From a Jack Lessenberry column a few weeks ago:

So I decided to pay a visit to the Great Demographer, Kurt Metzger, who now runs a two-year-old nonprofit population study center called Data Driven Detroit [[datadrivendetroit.org). Originally from Cincinnati, Metzger has spent most of his life studying southeast Michigan, first with the Census Bureau itself, then at Wayne State for years before leaving for United Way. Now he's running his own shop. I know from experience that if you need to find the number of left-handed immigrants of Nepalese extraction in Roseville, he's your man. So, I asked: What's your best estimate of Detroit's actual population? He frowned, staring at his turkey sandwich at the Roma, perhaps the only restaurant still around which was in business when Detroit last had so few people.
"Something less than 800,000, certainly. Perhaps between 750,000 and 775,000. SEMCOG [Southeastern Michigan Council of Governments] is using 772,000 as their figure.

Yeah, the ACS was normalized to the adjusted Detroit population a from a few years ago. I think we will see a big drop when the new Census numbers are released.

[Hermod]

From a Jack Lessenberry column a few weeks ago:

Yeah, the ACS was normalized to the adjusted Detroit population a from a few years ago. I think we will see a big drop when the new Census numbers are released.

A couple of months back, I floated the 750,000 number as a good possibility and was roundly chastised for making up numbers.

[dtrrman]

A couple of months back, I floated the 750,000 number as a good possibility and was roundly chastised for making up numbers.

There is no way there is more than 750K-800K people left in that city.