New Republican Lies

[rb336]

"New Hampshire House Republicans are pushing for new laws that would prohibit many college students from voting in the state - and effectively keep some from voting at all."

Now we know which is the party of oppression. When will they start banning education and books?

in case you haven't noticed, they have been trying to for years

[jiminnm]

"New Hampshire House Republicans are pushing for new laws that would prohibit many college students from voting in the state - and effectively keep some from voting at all."

Now we know which is the party of oppression. When will they start banning education and books?

The general rule about college students voting has always been that students attending in-state colleges have the right to vote in that state. Their specific county or precinct may depend on where they lived prior to college. Students attending out of state colleges have generally not been allowed to vote in the state where the college is located as they are not considered permanent residents of that state. Instead, they retain their right to vote in their home state. Absentee ballots are always available for voters who away from their voting location on election day.

Some states may have specifically changed the general rule, but I don't know if NH was one of them.

No law can negate a college student's right to vote and for the reporter to imply otherwise is irresponsible.

[ghettopalmetto]

The general rule about college students voting has always been that students attending in-state colleges have the right to vote in that state. Their specific county or precinct may depend on where they lived prior to college. Students attending out of state colleges have generally not been allowed to vote in the state where the college is located as they are not considered permanent residents of that state. Instead, they retain their right to vote in their home state. Absentee ballots are always available for voters who away from their voting location on election day.

Some states may have specifically changed the gene

No law can negate a college student's right to vote and for the reporter to imply otherwise is irresponsible.

Again, that's not true. I voted in Ann Arbor in the late 1990s, even though the University considered me an "out-of-state" student. Residency for tuition-paying purposes has nothing to do with residency concerning a driver's license, paying taxes, or voting. I did all three, despite the University considering me a "resident" of Ohio.


As such, these are the voting requirements in Michigan, per the Secretary of State:

• A U.S. citizen
• At least 18 years old by Election Day
• A resident of Michigan
• A resident of the city or township where you are applying to register to vote.

http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,1607,7...669---,00.html

[jiminnm]

Again, what I said was true.

I gave the general rule, and stated that some states may have adopted other rules. Changed rules would have redefined residency so as to include students from out of state. Also, states may recognize residency differently for students living in college provided housing versus those who reside in their place [[with utility bills, rent, etc.).

[maxx]

from the website I cited:
In 2000, a Michigan state residency requirement law requiring citizens’ voter
registration address to match the address of their driver’s license address passed over the
objections of college students across the state. 17 A subsequent lawsuit by the ACLU on
behalf of students from six state universities failed to overturn the law.
Michigan students from across the state strongly opposed the bill, calling for
fewer barriers to voting, not more. In a press release by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Michigan announcing the filing of the lawsuit to challenge Public Law 118,
then University of Michigan student Abe Raffi said, “This law attempts to silently drag
students out of the democratic process.”18 Its passage has led to a subsequent decrease in
registered voters. From 2000 to 2002, registered voter numbers dropped from 29,463 to
26, 242 in East Lansing and 91,847 to 84,512 in Ann Arbor, which are both college
towns. 19 This law is especially burdensome because Michigan state law also requires
first time voters to vote in person, rather than by absentee ballot.20 Thus students who do
not wish to change their drivers’ license to reflect their school address, which is common,
will be unable to vote in Michigan unless they travel to their parents’ home, which may
be impossible due to time or financial constraints.

[partyhardy]

Yet another Republican Lie: Voter fraud is widespread.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

William O'Brien is nothing more than an ass nugget. Oh, just because they don't vote the way we want them to makes them inexperienced and foolish. How bleepin' ignorant.

If anything, college students should have more of a right to vote. They have to live a lot longer under the policies enacted under O'Brien and clusterfucks like him.

How about we use "life experiences" and take a look at what other countries in terms of health care, education, and economy and implement programs that work well in other countries over here. We can fine tune them into solutions that really work. You know, instead of using the same old tired song and dance and the "we're number one crap so nothing has to change" mindset.

I'd be more willing to put the future on this country in the hands of college students than any tea party member...

Oh, and I agree with Detroitej72...this is definitely oppressive. We've given the right to vote to blacks and women since the founding of our country and these dumbasses want to turn around and banish certain groups because things don't go their way? Ridiculous...I can't wait till 2012...

[oladub]

If Republicans thought this out, it would make more sense if their suburban kids' votes were consolidated in Collegetown. Young people do vote more liberally for student loans, drug laws, lower tuition, abortion availability and whatever else suits their age group. Why would Republicans want those votes tilting their suburban Grand Rapids district when they could be all spent in Madison or Ann Arbor where all representatives have always been Democrats anyway?

[maxx]

Spending money on illness prevention is just a slush fund.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/11/op...gman.html?_r=2

[maxx]

His [Cheney's]general counsel has asserted that 'the vice presidency is a unique office that is neither a part of the executive branch nor a part of the legislative branch,' and is therefore exempt from rules governing either.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/secrecy/

[maxx]

A nuclear plant meltdown is equivalent to an airplane crash.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/japan...ry?id=13133047
Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., who co-sponsored a bill last year to boost nuclear power, also warned his colleagues not to jump into hasty decision making. "It is important that we are clear about the risks each type of energy poses. We don't abandon highway systems because bridges and overpasses collapse during earthquakes. The 1.6 million of us who fly daily would not stop flying after a tragic airplane crash.

[maxx]

Hydraulic fracking is safe for drinking water.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_833781.html

[ghettopalmetto]

LIE: Low corporate taxes creates jobs.

A thought experiment: State A has an unemployment rate of 6.7% and its per capita income is nearly $42,000. State B has an unemployment rate of 10.5% and its per capita income is above $32,000. Which state’s economy do you prefer? Of course, the answer is obvious. Now add the fact that the Tax Foundation ranks State A 44th in its corporate tax index and State B is ranked 9th. Change your opinion of which you prefer?

State A is Minnesota. State B is South Carolina.

Clearly, there are many non-tax factors that affect a state’s overall business climate: its proximity to raw materials or transportation centers, its regulatory or legal structures, the quality of its education system and the skill of its workforce, not to mention the intangible perception of a state’s “quality of life.”

--the Tax Foundation

http://www.michiganfuture.org/03/201...-tax-rankings/

[maxx]

McCain: The iPhone and iPad are made in the U.S..

[maxx]

GhettoP: And the converse of your example: high taxes discourage entrepeneurship.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201...socialism.html



As a Norwegian, he pays nearly 50 percent of his income to the federal government, along with a substantial additional tax that works out to roughly 1 percent of his total net worth. And that's just what he pays directly. Payroll taxes in Norway are double those in the U.S. Sales taxes, at 25 percent, are roughly triple....

[Gee, what's the matter with the Norwegians? Why don't they live by the capitalistic principle , "Exploit thy neighbor" ? Israelis also pay high taxes. ]

[maxx]

Lie: Unions are useless to the community at large.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/03/23
" This month, defense contractor Honeywell pleaded guilty to releasing radioactive material into the community of Metropolis, Ill. The episode shows, once again, the importance of a unionized workforce for providing for the safety of workers...."

[maxx]

Lie: The new healthcare law is nothing but evil socialism.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...ial23_ST_N.htm

[rb336]

GhettoP: And the converse of your example: high taxes discourage entrepeneurship.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201...socialism.html



As a Norwegian, he pays nearly 50 percent of his income to the federal government, along with a substantial additional tax that works out to roughly 1 percent of his total net worth. And that's just what he pays directly. Payroll taxes in Norway are double those in the U.S. Sales taxes, at 25 percent, are roughly triple....

[Gee, what's the matter with the Norwegians? Why don't they live by the capitalistic principle , "Exploit thy neighbor" ? Israelis also pay high taxes. ]

Sweden is the same way, yet two of the most successful entrepreneurial companies [[IKEA, Ericsson) of the last 20 years are from there, and other businesses are thriving as well.

[Jimaz]

From MediaMatters.org: CRUISE SHIP CONFESSION: Top Fox News Executive Admits Lying On-Air About Obama

In newly uncovered audio, a Fox News executive boasts that he lied repeatedly during the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when he speculated on-air "about whether Barack Obama really advocated socialism."

Speaking in 2009 onboard a pricey Mediterranean cruise sponsored by a right-wing college, Fox Washington managing editor Bill Sammon described his attempts the previous year to link Obama to "socialism" as "mischievous speculation." Sammon, who is also a Fox News vice president, acknowledged that "privately" he had believed that the socialism allegation was "rather far-fetched."

[maxx]

People who work for nothing are better workers.
http://crooksandliars.com/brad-reed/...dys-learnin-ho

[[I haven't heard any Republican say this but since it is probusiness, it's only a matter of time.)

[Jimaz]

People who work for nothing are better workers.
http://crooksandliars.com/brad-reed/...dys-learnin-ho

[[I haven't heard any Republican say this but since it is probusiness, it's only a matter of time.)

From the article:

Like others who have used unpaid labor, Remote Stylist's Kelly Fallis recommends beginning with a very specific job description and conducting a thorough hiring process to screen out people who aren't going to give their all for nothing.

Candidates who respond to Fallis' postings on Craigslist and Facebook must fill out a detailed email questionnaire and undergo two rounds of phone interviews and three in-person interviews.

Those who join Remote Stylist, whether they are students or out-of-work 20- or 30-somethings, must agree to a four-month run and sign a hiring contract. She asks interns to commit 30 hours a week; she has been burned in the past by people who were trying to juggle a paid job with their commitment to Remote Stylist.

She has been burned? She actually thinks that she isn't the one doing the burning? Oh, really?

They used to call that slavery. I suppose the opposite situation would be someone getting vastly overpaid for doing nothing. That would be called a CEO.

The funny thing is that she seems to be putting more effort into finding her slaves than it would take for her to do the job herself.

[maxx]

Watergate was an attempted coup d'etat by Democrats. Some Republicans really have taken lessons from the old USSR's book.
http://www.npr.org/2011/04/01/135039...sgraced-leader

[maxx]

Cutting gov. spending will create jobs.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion...nding.html.csp

[oladub]

Oh no, not more Krugman. Krugman is a Keynesian economist who has encouraged everything that has brought us to this point of high government spending and high unemployment. He is a high priest of the bankers' status quo. The Federal Reserve is now just printing money because China won't buy so much of our debt at such low interest rates. He is right in that, short term, mindless government spending will stimulate the economy. It worked for Mugabe and the Weimar Republic for a while too until inflation roared. He is proposing similarly kicking the economic can down the road. Government money is like drugs. Printing money and flinging it about works for a while but eventually one has to print more to get the same buzz. Then when a country has to really spend money, like Japan now does, it finds itself deeply in debt. The Bush/Obama recession will stretch into the Obama inflationary period. Noticed prices going up at the gas pump and grocery store yet? part of that is the dollar decreasing in value relative to other currencies due to printing.

I wish the Republicans would be different than Democrats but their $61B cut proposal is within one percent of the Democrats $6B proposal relative to the entire budget. It is almost equally laughable. These aren't actually cuts anyway. They are just reductions in increased proposed spending.

[maxx]

Rightwing tactics discussed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2zYaKXeyXE&NR=1

[maxx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcJoh...eature=related